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Buying Ski Gear on Ebay
Here's a quiz...which of the following represents the best "value" for your dollar? Let's assume that you are a strong intermediate skier and weigh 175 pounds.
- The Rossignol skis at your local shop are $399. on sale with Salomon Quadrax bindings, DIN range 2-9. You can clearly see that these are brand new, and the price includes a mid-season tune-up.
- A three year old pair of Rossignol "all mountain" skis, in "good" condition is available on Ebay for $29 plus firm shipping charges of $30. Photos show skis that seem to be decent. They come with Marker bindings and a DIN range of 3-10.
- Another pair of Rossignol skis, age unknown but they look just as good as #2, is listed on Ebay with a current bid of $5. The auction ends in 12 minutes. The listing says that they include top-of-line Geze racing bindings and cost $700 new. It also states that shipping will be determined at conclusion of auction.
On the other hand, #2 is worth taking a chance on. A used set up like this is probably the same as a good rental pair, which will cost you $125 for the season, plus deposit. The Marker bindings will last a few years, the skis will last a decade if you take care of them. Worth taking a chance on these, if the seller has good feedback. Use the "ask seller a question" feature to learn more about the condition...describe your height, weight, ability and skiing habits, and see what the seller says in reply. If the seller has good feedback, you can move ahead based on what he says.
If you said #3, be prepared for that auction gavel to smack you right upside the head. The reason the skis are $5 is that all the intelligent buyers are staying away. The first flag should be the Geze bindings. This is a discontinued brand, and the bindings are no longer indemnified (supported by the manufacturer). That means that unless you are comfortable adjusting the DIN settings yourself, you are out of luck: No ski shop will touch these or any other non-indemnified binding. The fact that they are listed as "racing" bindings should also raise a flag; the DIN range on true racing bindings often starts higher than your appropriate setting (probably 5-6).
The pitfalls, however, have just begun. Let's assume #3 had decent bindings; you still don't have enough time to confirm the shipping costs with the seller. And without firm shipping costs, you are fair game. If you're taken in by the "$700 new" in the sales pitch, forget it. Some 8-track players used to cost more than that. If the skis are so valuable, why is the top bid $5?
The stuff nobody wants: Common E-bay Pitfalls.
"...boots are in like-new condition but one has a broken buckle that can be replaced at a ski shop..."
Sure, it can be replaced, if you happen to be proficient at molding engineered thermoplastics. For most of us, however, the parts will never be found unless we buy another pair with a good buckle. You can't "wish" an item to be good. The ONLY time to bid on broken or incomplete items is if you happen to know the item and have the needed part in your possession. In that case you can probably steal that pair of boots for a few dollars...unless some idiot is convinced he can fix it.
My son left it behind when he...
The "junior left it behind when he went to college" stuff is more prevalent than you might think. In fact, mom & dad will often say so in the listing. The thing to remember here is that junior probably left twenty years ago, and mom is finally dealing with the fact that he doesn't plan to come back. The downside to this is that the stuff is all old. Worse yet, mom and dad are even older, so they won't ship UPS. They only understand "post office" and probably wait outside for it to open so they can see if they got any checks today. They'll pack your item with the wrong kind of tape, and the guy at the counter will tell them he won't accept it, then they'll go see how much the strapping tape costs, and tell you that they estimated the shipping charges incorrectly, and of course they couldn't get back to you right away because something was wrong with WebTV...
I don't know much about skiing, but the boot clamps appear to be in real good shape...
This is just more of the same. Junior left it with mom, or he left it in a U-Stor-it facility, and the storage yard is auctioning it off. Sometimes it's a pawn shop, or somebody left something in the cellar at the fraternity, or the building super found it when a tenant left...in almost every situation, the stuff is old and the seller barely knows how to ship it. Best case scenario is you'll get something that smells only slightly musty, is only a little rusty, and it will arrive in three or four weeks. You'll buy the item for $2 and spend $20 to ship it; you're better off finding this junk at garage sales.
I bought these skis for my wife, but she...
Assuming the seller is sincere, this sort of thing is an opportunity to get a good deal; sometimes a great deal. Usually happens when some thick-as-a-brick husband (sort of like me) decides that his wife should have something so that she can participate in his hobby. He goes out and buys an item -- after a salesman has upsold him to top of the line skis -- and they are usually too long. She dutifully tries to use them. This often results in minor sprains or arguments or both. The skis then go unused for about a year before quietly appearing on ebay. In these cases, you can really get a great deal.
I'm selling this for a friend...
Means the seller bought some junk at his neighbor's garage sale. Or junior left it with an estranged girlfriend, sparing mom the trouble of listing it.
Used equipment "Dealers"
These entrepreneurs will buy every single obsolete item when an outfitter upgrades their rental equipment, then auction it online. They'll describe it as "demo" or "former rental stock" or "adjustable for rental use." You'll see the same seller offering multiple copies of the same item in a variety of sizes. It will look like it was once top quality stuff, but is now scratched up, and probably has small cosmetic parts missing. As long as you understand what you are buying, you can often find very sound equipment that just happens to look heavily used...because that's often what it is.
There are a couple of risks. First is that the seller has often made a significant cash outlay to get the stuff, and then goes ahead and sells with "no reserve." What the big print giveth, the small print taketh away: Shipping is usually significantly higher than average, so that they are sure to cover their bets. This is fine -- simply bid with the high shipping in mind -- unless "win the auction frenzy" leads you to overpay. Ain't capitalism grand?
Another risk in buying from these used equipment operators is that they are often selling a massive volume of stuff at the beginning of a particular season, which is when you happen to be most inclined to buy. Everything goes along smoothly, until the package arrives a day early with somebody else's item inside. In the frenzy of shipping, the wrong label got on one box, and it snowballs from there. A reputable dealer trying to build a business will make it right, but it's a hassle just the same.
The biggest advantage to buying from used rental stock is that these dealers tend to be more accurate about condition in their listings, the merchandise is quite heavy duty to begin with, and they usually offer a guarantee...so they tend to ship stuff that works. Just be prepared for stuff that cosmetically looks as if it has been through the wars.