Originally Posted by JohnH
I also agree that Clayton's post was good. I'm glad to hear that he had such a great lesson. However, I feel the need to say that that's all it was.... a great 4 day long lesson. I am happy to see his new found enthusiasm for skiing, but be sure he could have received at least as good of a lsson if he had spent 4 days with any current, high level instructor.
John, I disagree. I've had several 5 half-day sessions with high level CSIA instructors during vacations in B.C. I believe CSIA is more like ATS than different. My skiing improved, but no where near the improvement I had at HH's PMTS All-Mountain camp. I often make brief* observations of instructors on the U.S. mountains where I ski. I see some giving instructions in ski technique best suited to pencil skis and rear entry boots...up-twist-down & around. I see a very few instructors showing what I feel is good technique to the class, and I don't see the rapid rate of improvement and big grins I saw at the PMTS camp every half-day. I do see instructors skiing well when free-skiing, then giving what I feel are rigid, stiff technique to the students. I don't see race training. I certainly don't ski at every mountain and view every instructor.
One of the important points of PMTS training that often gets overlooked is that the same skiing techiques are used for every skiing and snow condition, with minor variations. There is no major difference in pack, powder, crud, bumps...whatever. Sure, powder requires equal weighting, and crud requires moving the feet fore & aft to adjust for the differing resistance the snow puts agains the skis, but no major difference. I recently skied in variable snow on a flat light day. I could not tell if I was on pack, crud, bumps, or powder until I was in it, and I skied all with speed and smoothness. I promise I never did that before the PMTS camp. These techniques are the same techniques beginners are taught from their first day, with more development added to the techniques as the ski improves. One day at lunch Harald told the story of skiing with one of the freestyle champs and leaving him in the bump field with both skis blown off. Harald told his name, I recognized it as one of the big names, and I forgot the name. The champ could ski the zipper line fast and couldn't ski across the bump field as well. Harald like to do hoppers in bumps...jump across the trench between bumps and turn on the next bump, and he's flying as he does this. What does this prove...only that I recognized the same PMTS techniques in Harald's flying down a mogul field doing hoppers as I received in my instruction from him and saw in his green/blue video. Am I doing hoppers in moguls...not on your life.
About what's rotary and what isn't...the "wrong" rotary is when the twisting body part is intended to turn the ski. The "right" rotary is when the edged, self-turning** ski twists a body part. It is disingenuous to make the discussion more complex than that. Does a highly countered body unwind and cause the skis to change direction when the ski edges are released?...sure. Can we all agree that is not the same as making an intentional muscular twist to turn the ski? If I haven't made my point clear, I'm sorry. I don't know how to express the difference more clearly than that.
I'm still waiting to hear from anyone who has given an honest trial to PMTS technique and didn't like it. Anyone can advocate anything, but it is very different to do so from a ski slope making a real effort to try something than it is to just sit at the computer and dream up reasons why something won't work. Give it an honest trial, using the PMTS exercises. If it really doesn't work for the skier you're trying it on, please make a posting and give the details. Photos will help.
*Brief means not long enough to be accused of hijacking a free lesson.
**Put the ski on edge and it turns you--you don't turn the ski. This describes all modern skis.