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post #1 of 17
Thread Starter 
Well, here is my story:

I como from Chile, a country in south america known for its mountains. Even so, i never skied until the last northern winter, when i came to work as a lift operator in Windham Mountain, NY, and i started learning to ski.

This season i came back, and i think i am ready to buy my own equipment to be able to go skiing when i go back to Chile.

So, i started by buying boots. The guy at the mountain ski shop suggested the salomon performa 7.5, wich i ended up buying, and i am happy with them, so my next step is skis.

I consider myself an intermediate, since i can pretty much do all the blues on Windham without much trouble. I have never taken a lesson. I started learning by watching the people who went to my lift (G lift, wich serves 3 blacks and a green), and lately i have gotten some pointers from friends in ski school and ski patrol.

I am 1,70 m tall (i think that's something like 5' 6'' or 5' 7'') and around 170-185 pounds.

With all of that into consideration the people from the ski shop recommended the K2 Omni 3.5 in 160, wich appeals to me since it is kinda cheap, and my budget isn't too high...

any other recommendations? i am kind of worried after reading that the 3.5 is supposed to be a beginner ski... and i don't want to outgrow it too fast...
post #2 of 17
Welcome, Kuroyume.

We know Windham pretty well here, but what sort of terrain did you ski in Chile, and what sort of terrain would you like to?
post #3 of 17
Originally Posted by Kuroyume
Well, here is my story:

I como from Chile, a country in south america known for its mountains. Even so, i never skied until the last northern winter, when i came to work as a lift operator in Windham Mountain, NY, and i started learning to ski.
reading comprehension 101
post #4 of 17
Heh? Did I not understand properly:

2004/2005 Kuroyume arrives at Windham and starts learning.

Southern winter 2005 Kuroyume is back in Chile.

Maybe he skied, maybe not, maybe he looked at slopes he might wish to.

2005/2006 Kuroyume is back at Windham.

A second-year seasonaire who has a great chance to improve by leaps and bounds through year-round skiing (and lessons), is it not proper to ask what they want to do?
post #5 of 17
Thread Starter 
I did not get a chance to ski in Chile during the winter, due to college, mostly, so i have no idea what the terrain is like there, but i know that snowmaking is almost non existant...

I know that i want to keep moving forward, so i am thinking of trying Why Not (the easiest black on the mountain) on my next day off...

Basically i will probably stay on groomed terrain for at least another couple of years i guess... i like to go fast, and the few times i have tried to go into deeper snow (for those who know Windham, the non-groomed side of Wonderama on a powder day) i have taken some serious falls... also, i have never tried to do moguls, so the droomed trails are my place for now...

about the lessons, i have never taken any, but i will probably start taking this week... i feel like i am at a point where i can't keep teaching myself...

My main concern about buying skiis is that i will have them for at least 2 or 3 years, since i am not coming back to Windham, and in Chile i can't afford new skis... at least until i graduate from college and start making some money...
post #6 of 17
I think you shold start out on a 5.5 instead of 3.5; I think you could outgrow the 3.5 too soon.
post #7 of 17
What skis have you used from the rental shop so far? I would take maybe a step up in length (if you are skiing shorter skis) since you should progress in ability and difficulty of the slopes as you continue. Also you may want to ask the rental shop if they have any higher end demos (some call them performance skis) than the standard rentals and see if you like them better than what you have been using. This would give you a better idea than just taking the first shop recommendation you receive. The shop may have a good reputation and recommendation, but then again if you are progressing and they recommend beginner skis, then there is not much room for improvement until they will be ready for the ski swap and a second pair of skis sooner than you want. (Which is worst for the budget since you will not get that much for used skis when selling them in a year).
post #8 of 17
Thread Starter 
SO far i am using the Rossignol Edge on 150... this week i guess i will try thew high performance skis on the rental shop... they are Salomon, i don't know the model... they are yellow...
post #9 of 17
Thread Starter 
ok... i started doing some research on ebay about stuff on my budget, were announced as intermediate, and i found some choices... after some elimination, i came up with:

Rossignol Bandits:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=8754612274&ssPage Name=STRK:MEWA:IT

Head M 3.70
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=8755757762&ssPage Name=STRK:MEWA:IT

K2 Apache Black Hawk
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=8754085615&ssPage Name=STRK:MEWA:IT

Atomic C:9
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=8755142953&ssPage Name=STRK:MEWA:IT

Dynastar Skicross
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=8754580622&ssPage Name=STRK:MEWA:IT

any opinions on wich one?

i feel kind of biased for the K2, since i feel it is a ski that i will need to grow into...

I really want to buy now that the conditions are finally getting decent here in Windham, so any advice is appreciated...
post #10 of 17
IMO the Bandits would serve you the best of the skis listed above. They should be able to allow you to progress to a higher level and will not beat you up when you make a mistake.
post #11 of 17
If you truly insist on those lengths (I think 5cm longer would be appropriate to consider for your weight) then my vote goes to the Atomic C:9.

The Dynastar is only an SX 8: it would get my second vote if it was 5cm longer at least, or if it was an ST 09.

Bandits third vote, again longer.

(point tally thus far Rossi 4: Atomic 3: Dynastar 2)
post #12 of 17
I picked the Bandit because of it's versitility. I feel carving skis are to single minded.

If you can get the Bandit in 160-170cm you will have fun with it and be able to improve.

Remember this ski will be with you for a few years.

Hey can't one of the shop guy's here help this young guy out???

Isn't there someone close to Windham that can let this guy have some used skis cheap. I have a few but I most of my stuff is to long for him. I have a friend who has some Elan M10's in 170cm.
post #13 of 17
Originally Posted by Max Capacity
I picked the Bandit because of it's versitility. I feel carving skis are to single minded.
Understood . I picked the carvier model to give him more edge on hardpack, since the overall length of the auction skis is a bit short for his weight. And there's the whole binding-position-versatility thing of Atomics.
post #14 of 17
If others like the Bandits (I only know of a few that own them or have owned them and they were not beginners) then you may be able to check out this listing.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Rossignol-Bandit-170cm-used-Shape-Snow-Ski-w-binding_W0QQitemZ8752781142QQcategoryZ21245QQrdZ1Q QcmdZViewItem

I just purchased from this seller for a friend, have not received the item yet but just received the payment confirmation so should be getting a tracking number. These from this seller are not new, and maybe not the right length if you are on 150's now. Try the next size or 2 up for a day (or see if you can go out with the 160's and then return later in the day for 165 or longer lengths. The longer length is harder to get used to for a beginner but once you progress should be more stable at faster speeds than a shorter ski.
post #15 of 17
Thread Starter 

look like the bandits are getting a lot of support...

comprex: i'll see if i can find them on 165, otherwise, i think i will go for those 160s...
post #16 of 17
This is a cool thread. Whatever ski you end up with, it's a good thing you're getting into the sport and will pursue it back home.
post #17 of 17
Thread Starter 
I was just talking to an instructor friend, and he says the k2 is a better ski for groomed skiing than the bandit...

so i am also taking that into consideration... so my top 2 choices are the bandit and the k2...

ts01: yes... i am now in love with skiing... i am so hooked... my tax refund is going into a week long ski trip...
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