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Binding questions

post #1 of 9
Thread Starter 
1. What is a "din" setting and what din do I need? I am 225 lbs. - 6' and am a advanced skier.

2. What is wrong with using older bindings on new skis? I have a set of Tyrolia 390 RD bindings that I have been skiing on for the past 8 years and they are in fine shape. I don't like falling and don't so I ski in control and don't tork the bindings. Why can't I save myself big $ by remounting them on my new Atomics?
post #2 of 9
DIN is a standardized spec for bindings and boots, for bindings typically the scale will run from 2-15, most bindings will fall in this scale be it 2-10, or 5-15 etc. Have the shop set your din on your bindings, or just ask a tech, but if someone were to give you a din you also have to have your age and skier type. skier type is not skiing level, basically a 1 is soft release setting and 3 is a stiff release, if your not thoes two then your a 2.
As for remounting your older binsdings on you new skis, you may run into trouble when a tech runs the bindings through the indemnified list, this list is given out by the ski companies, typically a binding will go out of indemnification after 5-7 years. this does not mean the binding is not good anymore it just means that the binding manufacturers will not back up the binding anymore. If you really want to use thoes bindings, find a shop that will do a destructive test, and then find a shop that will mount/work on nonindemnified bindings.
One thin also to consider, you paid X amount of dollars on newer boards, why not spend the few extra bucks on a pr of last yrs bindings.<FONT size="1">

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post #3 of 9
Your din setting also takes into account your age, boot sole lenght, and your choice of skier type; I, II, or III. The skier type is really more a matter of agressiveness, than ability. A smooth skiing expert can often get away with a lower din, whereas a less technical skier may feel the need for a higher one. The big air and straightline crowd tend to crank up the din.

I think din stands for Deutsch Industry Norm.

There is no reason to get new bindings, as long as you never fall, nobody ever knocks you over, you don't care about your own body, and you mount your own skis. Your 390 RDs may look in fine shape to you, but the function test may be a whole different story. They are very likely not indemnified anymore, and if so, no shop will touch them. I have seen many bindings that were less than a year old fail or break.

Spend the "big bucks", your body is worth it. By the way, many people have blown knees because they fought a fall. Falling is just part of the sport, everyone should learn how to do it right.

One last thing, when you get your new Atomics mounted, the shop may also perform a "new ski tune", make sure they don't try to flatten the shovels. Atomic shovels (and many others) tend to be concave. No big, they will ski fine that way. If you try to flatten them, you will grind lots of life out.
post #4 of 9
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the responces. So what your really saying is that binding are only good for a few years? Most of the shops in my area won't mount/work on nonindemnified bindings. Their period is two years!!! That's BS! I think that they just want to sell equipment.
post #5 of 9
Batman- Most shops won't touch the out of date bindings because they don't want to get sued. So they play it safe.

E-mail me. I will send you a copy of the chart we use to set din on bindings along with how to read the chart properly. I'm not necessarily advocating you set them yourself, but this will give you a good idea as to what's going on in the shop where you can't see what they are doing to your bindings! jyarddog@spiritone.com

Life's a pain... then you nap. Cat philosphy
post #6 of 9
Hey Batman--just to add my 2 cents. My uncle put some old bindings on some nu skis and promply went out and tore his knee up. they didn't release. Cost him several thou what with co pays and lost work (not to mention the pain and a missed season).

Also it's easy to get last years bindings at half price or less here in CO. I was in Stefan Kaelin in Aspen on Friday and they still had some nice Look and Rossi bindings for 160 or so plus some Atomic xentrix 310 for only 130!! Bet they'd mail them if you called.
post #7 of 9
I have some Tyrolia 390's mounted on some old GS and slalom skis that I haven't used in years but cannot bring myself to throw away for sentimental reasons. I would never ski on them again with those bindings.

I still mount Tyrolia bindings when I buy new skis mostly because I have never had any problems with pre-release or failure to release when needed.

Last year I believe the Tyrolia 790 series was the oldest still indeminified by Tyrolia. That binding was manufactured around 1995.

I would strongly recommend that you take the advice that others here have offered and buy a pair of last years bindings if you want to save $'s.

I have not heard of bindings being warranted for only two years. Usually the binding warranty outlasts the useful physical or technical life of the ski.

Spinheli is right about DIN's meaning. It was adopted by the industry year's ago to provide a uniform standard within the industry for binding retention and release properties.<FONT size="1">

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[This message has been edited by Lostboy (edited September 09, 2001).]</FONT>
post #8 of 9
Thread Starter 
Thanks all, I have taken your recommendations and have just picked up a new pair of Atomic Z-412's. jyarddog, please send me the DIN chart.

post #9 of 9
You also have to know how to read the chart and how to test teh bindings in order to make shure everything is correct.
Let the shop do it, they will set the dins when they mount the bindings. unless you start pre releasing leave em be.
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