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Low Volume Flexible Boots -Advice please

post #1 of 17
Thread Starter 
Hi Everyone,

This is a great forum and there seem to be a lot of experts out there so hopefully some of you may be able to help with some boot recommendations...

I currently have a pair of Lange L10 boots in the Race Fit.

I am an advanced skier, 166 lbs. I do a lot of on-piste skiing but am getting more into off-piste powder and I also enjoy moguls. I am not a racer but have previously looked at race type boots purely for the low volume.

I have low volume narrow feet (narrow from toes to heel with med/high instep) which is why I originally bought the Lange L10 Race Fit boots and I also have foam liners for an even closer fit.

My problem is that I want to be able to flex more in the ankles (e.g. for moguls) but this is very difficult in race type boots due to the hard plastic. It also takes me around 20 mins just to to get these boots on in cold weather due to the plastic getting even harder .

Please could you recommend what boots I should try out which are very low volume but give me more flex then my existing boots?

I am considering Dalbello Flexon Pro's with the softer tongue installled (or the Flexon Cross). The 3-part design should also make getting the boots on easier. Are these boots close to the low volume fit of the L10 race fits, or are there any others you would recommend? Is the softer tongue a lot softer or still quite hard?

Being an advanced skier I do not want huge amounts of flex, but having close to zero ankle flex on cold days is really hampering my performance and pushing me into the back seat. Hopefuly some of you will have some good suggestions...

Alternatively perhaps it is possible to soften my existing boots? I already searched for details on softening L10s but couldn't find any information on the web.

Thanks!
post #2 of 17
a technica race pro 110 will be fairly soft with rivets removed. i do that for offpiste and bumps and soft snow in general. 160lbs.
post #3 of 17
See if the Salomon Pro SC Spaceframe fits you. It is a low volume boot with a friendly flex.
post #4 of 17
My 11.5-B low volume foot (downsized to what Salomon says should fit a 10.5) is very happy in my Salomon Pro SC boots. The flex is smooth and uniform. The SC is not a stiff boot but the good fit and smooth flex pattern gives it good control without feeling stiff. It should be on your list of boots to try on.
post #5 of 17
Gee- sounds like a sure case for the legendary Raichle/Kneissel Flexons- too bad they don't make them anymore. They can still be found, I think, with a Thermofit liner.
Try the new Dalbello Kryptons. The heat moldable liners should be a good, more comfortable replacement for foam.
post #6 of 17
Rossignol Elite Bandit is definitely worth a try. lower volume from the ball of the foot rearward and up through the ankle than your current Lange. smoother flex, great lateral quickness.
post #7 of 17
let me second the kryptons and add look for a real pro of a bootfitter to dial in for ya .Also before you give up on old boots,when you find said bootfitter bring them in with you to have them check out for all your options
post #8 of 17
Krypton, 3rd. If you can find some *Flexons, again another option.





*Not Flexon Slaloms.
post #9 of 17
Thread Starter 
Thanks very much for all your advice so far!

The Flexons seems to be a popular recommedation for what I am looking for so I'll definitely be trying those. They only seem to be available at selected ski stores in some of the bigger resorts, but there are some good bootfitters there as well so it's worth the trip to get a good bootfitter.

In the past I've noticed that Salomon and Technica have traditionally produced larger shell boots and the ones I've tried on in the past have been too large, however these pro versions may be closer to the low volume I'm looking for so I'll definitely put them on the list to try. I like the sound of a nice progressive flex on the Salomon Pro SC Spaceframe and I also like the idea of being able to change the flex on the Technica Race Pro 110 depending on what I'm skiing.

Also I remember when I was looking for my last pair of boots that the Rossis were relatively low volume and good for my foot shape so I'll need to also try the Elite Bandits as well this time.
post #10 of 17
b2ski,

The Salomon Pro SC is a lower volume shell than their most popular models like the X-wave. You may have tried on their larger volume model in the past.
post #11 of 17
Nordica Dobermann WC 100 is about as low volume as you can get. If that is too low volume check out the Nordica Dobermann Pro 110. I also echo the Technica Pro 110 and Salomon Pro SC. The Dobermann 100 will be slightly lower volume than both of those.
Later
GREG
post #12 of 17
The Atomic Race Tech CS is very very flexy and soft and as well low-volume.
post #13 of 17
wont help with the off and on issue, but have tou taken out the back rivits on the shell yet? makes the boot softer to flex.

also try the power strap around the liner only, not around the shell
post #14 of 17
Thread Starter 
Thanks guys for the additional boot recommendations to add to my list. There are lots of good suggestions there I wouldn't previously have thought to try. Hopefully I'll find stores that stock all of the boots so that I can try them all and compare fit/flex.

@mntlion - I already only use the powerstrap over the liner and not the shell. There is one rivit in the rear but I wasn't sure if the L10 boot is designed for this to be skied when the rivit is removed, or if it was holding everything together.
post #15 of 17
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Originally Posted by born2ski
@mntlion - I already only use the powerstrap over the liner and not the shell. There is one rivit in the rear but I wasn't sure if the L10 boot is designed for this to be skied when the rivit is removed, or if it was holding everything together.
remove it and enjoy
post #16 of 17
Quote:
Originally Posted by born2ski
I currently have a pair of Lange L10 boots in the Race Fit.

I am an advanced skier, 166 lbs. I do a lot of on-piste skiing but am getting more into off-piste powder and I also enjoy moguls. I am not a racer but have previously looked at race type boots purely for the low volume.

I have low volume narrow feet (narrow from toes to heel with med/high instep) which is why I originally bought the Lange L10 Race Fit boots and I also have foam liners for an even closer fit.

My problem is that I want to be able to flex more in the ankles (e.g. for moguls) but this is very difficult in race type boots due to the hard plastic. It also takes me around 20 mins just to to get these boots on in cold weather due to the plastic getting even harder .

Alternatively perhaps it is possible to soften my existing boots? I already searched for details on softening L10s but couldn't find any information on the web.
I own a pair of L10's - Race Fit as well and I've done a few things to soften them up. I've notched a "V" down the centreline, on the inside of the boot, cut off the top lobes on either side of the "V" AND used a Dremel tool to cut grooves immediately adjacent, on either side, of the apex (bottom) of the "V".

You might want to proceed one step at a time and ski the results after each step to ensure you're getting the flex you want. I know what you mean about the plastic hardening up in the cold.

BTW, I'm 6'0" and 150 lbs with wide feet but a low instep.
post #17 of 17
Take a look at the Solly Pro Guns. You might want to soften them slightly, but they are designed precisely for someone like you.
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