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Private lessons and tipping - etiquette?

post #1 of 16
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Well as the subject implies...I haven't taken a private lesson in forever (easily over a decade) and am wondering what the consensus is on tipping the instructor. Is tipping appropriate? Common?

How much? Fixed rate ($20?), % of total lesson cost? I'm assuming of course it varies based on how good you thought the lesson was, etc etc, but if someone could provide an objective range or suggestions that'd be great. Don't need anyone thinking I'm being cheap or rude when in fact it's simple ignorance. thanks
post #2 of 16
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Originally Posted by yelloboy
Well as the subject implies...I haven't taken a private lesson in forever (easily over a decade) and am wondering what the consensus is on tipping the instructor. Is tipping appropriate? Common?

How much? Fixed rate ($20?), % of total lesson cost? I'm assuming of course it varies based on how good you thought the lesson was, etc etc, but if someone could provide an objective range or suggestions that'd be great. Don't need anyone thinking I'm being cheap or rude when in fact it's simple ignorance. thanks
This seems to have come up before and here is a pretty recent thread: http://forums.epicski.com/showthread...hlight=tipping
post #3 of 16
Yelloboy,

As an instructor, I say to you "whatever you think is right." If that's $100, give $100. If it's $20, give $20. If it's $0, give $0. Don't feel required to give a tip if the lesson wasn't of the quality you expected.

L
post #4 of 16
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Originally Posted by Lonnie
Yelloboy,

As an instructor, I say to you "whatever you think is right." If that's $100, give $100. If it's $20, give $20. If it's $0, give $0. Don't feel required to give a tip if the lesson wasn't of the quality you expected.

L
Lonnie, on a 1 hour requested private, how would a $5 tip feel to you?

Happy?
Appreciated mildy?
Mildly Disappointed?
post #5 of 16
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Originally Posted by SkiMangoJazz
Lonnie, on a 1 hour requested private, how would a $5 tip feel to you?

Happy?
Appreciated mildy?
Mildly Disappointed?
Just fine, better that Zero!! Honestly, it really depends on who the client is, and what my history with them is. One of the best tips I ever got was a gift certificate to one of the local fly fishing stores. It wasn't for a ton of money, but I could tell they also put some thought (and time) into it.

But you guys gotta remember, I don't teach for the $$$, that's what the day job is for....

L
post #6 of 16
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Originally Posted by Lonnie
Just fine, better that Zero!! Honestly, it really depends on who the client is, and what my history with them is. One of the best tips I ever got was a gift certificate to one of the local fly fishing stores. It wasn't for a ton of money, but I could tell they also put some thought (and time) into it.

But you guys gotta remember, I don't teach for the $$$, that's what the day job is for....

L
Nice, I'll keep the gift certificate in mind. Leaving now for my second lesson (of 5) with the guy I gave $5 to last week

If he's great today, maybe I'll give him $10 - it's all just SO expensive!
post #7 of 16
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Originally Posted by SkiMangoJazz
Nice, I'll keep the gift certificate in mind. Leaving now for my second lesson (of 5) with the guy I gave $5 to last week

If he's great today, maybe I'll give him $10 - it's all just SO expensive!
SMJ, if you get this, keep it small and do some thing "nicer" for the last lesson. It will make his day....

L
post #8 of 16
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Originally Posted by Lonnie
SMJ, if you get this, keep it small and do some thing "nicer" for the last lesson. It will make his day....

L
Didn't get this until I got back, but I had a great lesson today, we started a little early too. I gave him $10 this time and could tell he was very pleased.
Now do I have to give him $15 next time and $20 the time after?:

(just kidding.)

I do like your idea for something special after the last lesson. Maybe a pat on the back
post #9 of 16
I come from a country where tipping is NOT really part of our culture (we believe in paying wages you can actually live on)...

I tip my instructors in food usually.... I make home made cookies & cakes & cook dinner parties & "lunch packs" of stuff like coq au vin & rice...

If I have an all day private I buy the lunch...ditto I always buy the kafi lutz... or coffee & cake or breakfast (if they have been on race course all morning then morning tea stop includes a quick feed)

However - if I tipped them then I could not afford to ski with them so much... they sort of have the choice of the tips or a season full of decent work....

I figure actually getting to SKI for a day in fresh snow is a reward (especially if we can arrange the car shuffle for a trip out of bounds)...

I have tipped one - after a season of lessons & boot fitting & ski tuning...

As all my lessons are requests they do get a small "tip" from the resort... that is it - they do not get tipped usually
post #10 of 16
I'm content and happy with about $20/hour. Many people don't tip. I'm very grateful to those who do.
I do get a little bit offended at those who palm their toddler off on you for hours, and act as though they were doing you a favour. Ah well.
post #11 of 16
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Originally Posted by disski
I come from a country where tipping is NOT really part of our culture (we believe in paying wages you can actually live on)...

I tip my instructors in food usually.... I make home made cookies & cakes & cook dinner parties & "lunch packs" of stuff like coq au vin & rice...

If I have an all day private I buy the lunch...ditto I always buy the kafi lutz... or coffee & cake or breakfast (if they have been on race course all morning then morning tea stop includes a quick feed)

However - if I tipped them then I could not afford to ski with them so much... they sort of have the choice of the tips or a season full of decent work....

I figure actually getting to SKI for a day in fresh snow is a reward (especially if we can arrange the car shuffle for a trip out of bounds)...

I have tipped one - after a season of lessons & boot fitting & ski tuning...

As all my lessons are requests they do get a small "tip" from the resort... that is it - they do not get tipped usually
Where or what is OZ, I hear people say that but it only makes me think of the wizard of oz
post #12 of 16
Oz is Australia. And like most First World countries, paying first world wages is law.
some 'first world" countries pay 2nd world wages. I'm working in one now.

I don't know how you do it, but the day is coming where this will come home to roost. I don't know much Economics, but I know enough to know that the US is on borrowed time, and borrowed money. Meanwhile, the skiing is great and I can afford to come here, using Australian money.
post #13 of 16
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Originally Posted by SkiMangoJazz
I do like your idea for something special after the last lesson. Maybe a pat on the back
Hugs are good! but one took to finishing my lessons at bottom of hill so the boys in ski school could not see him getting his hug! I think he was embarassed! (6 foot plus & > 100kg & embarassed by hugs! but fearless on skis!)

took a while but we trained one about hugs - he even hopped out of his car & hugged my friend who was working at the entrance station (she is 60+ just in case you have nasty minds & I am hardly young)
post #14 of 16
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Originally Posted by ant
Oz is Australia. And like most First World countries, paying first world wages is law.
some 'first world" countries pay 2nd world wages. I'm working in one now.

I don't know how you do it, but the day is coming where this will come home to roost. I don't know much Economics, but I know enough to know that the US is on borrowed time, and borrowed money. Meanwhile, the skiing is great and I can afford to come here, using Australian money.
Umm... OK, I am not worried , LOL. I have a plebty good job and financial staus is allready secure for my families future.
post #15 of 16
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Originally Posted by ant
Oz is Australia. And like most First World countries, paying first world wages is law.
some 'first world" countries pay 2nd world wages. I'm working in one now.

I don't know how you do it, but the day is coming where this will come home to roost. I don't know much Economics, but I know enough to know that the US is on borrowed time, and borrowed money. Meanwhile, the skiing is great and I can afford to come here, using Australian money.
Your first comment was none to subtle there Ant. I don't know what you've heard over the last 6 months but John Howard's "Workplace Reforms" could place us on par with the US regrading certain worker wages.

Strange how wages of upper management in many cases has risen 147% (average) whereas the coal-face workers have only seen a 2-4% rise over the last 2 years. These upper management are the same people who are telling the workers that they need to pull in their collective belts and face the fact that our economy cannot withstand a wage increase :
post #16 of 16
Workers with MBA's are getting alot higher wages in the US now than ever before. A huge jump over years past.
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