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post #31 of 48
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Originally Posted by jay_p
I ski last years Legend Pro (the "skinny" 90mm waisted version) in a 194, ......
FWIW - I used to ski the old Intuitive Big at 194cm and thought that was a great ride for hi speeds...not sure how that compares to the new 8800.
I would have thought that the LP in 194 and the Inspired Pro would be pretty similair to the older Intuitive Bigs or 4x4 Bigs (flame) in a 194. How did they stack up. I've got the 194 Bigs and was wondering the new crop of LP would compare.
post #32 of 48
DougW - The ride is somewhat similar, however, the 194 Intuitive Big had a stiff tail and a bigger, softer tip (though not as soft as many fats). The LP 194 is relatively stiff all the way through and it feels as though the ski is torsionally stiffer. On hardpack or ice days the LPs feel very similar to a pair of GS race boards that I have. Overall they seem to handle speed a bit better whatever the condition and I really like the upturned tail (helps in tight situations). Keep in mind that my Bigs have been used and abused or about 150 days so the comparison is somewhat biased.

FWIW, I also own a new pair of Volkl Mantras which are a really fun ski, however, the LP is in a another league in terms of stability at speed.
post #33 of 48
jay, thanks , going with white Bigs/Inspired this year and only bringing out the 194 on big big days.
post #34 of 48
I bought a pair of 178 cm 8800's at the start of this year and after 12 days I can say that I am very pleased with the ski overall. I'll probably end up on these skis 25+ days this year with no regrets.

I did a 4 day trip to a cat ski operation out of Golden, BC called Chatter Creek and we had significant snow fall on the 3rd and 4th day. The skis were great with keen plus deep snow but by the 4th day I could have used a much fatter ski as the 8800 was overcome by the better then 30" of new snow!

We typically ski off piste up Whistler and the 8800's have been great. I guess I'm done with my Atomic SX-11's.
post #35 of 48

Pro vs. B4s

Hi, I really want to demos the Pros, but am unable to find them anywhere. First question: do you think they'd be appropriate for me?

I am 5'8"-5'9" 155lbs. Level 9. Need some work in the bumps. I moved to Aspen for the season. Haven't owned a big ski before. Right now I am on last years B2s 170cm. Definetly ready for some more ski.

I demo'd the B3s 176cm and the 8800 178cm last week. I really liked the B3s and planned on ordering them, but the rep is taking is sweet time and now I started thinking.....

Going to demo the B4s tomorrow. Gonna try the 178s. But if they have the 185s in, I will try those too. Never been on such a big ski. Would they give me an idea of what the Pros 186s would be like?

I have an appointment tomorrow to place the order....... what to get???
Any advice appreciated!
post #36 of 48
Denski; Forget what I said above. I tried the Pros today and it's a great ski. You don't need to be Herman Meir to turn them but you sure feel like old Herman when you're arching these babys. MTT had them at the gathering and our boot soles were close enough so I traded my 88's for his Pros. I could fire off short fall line turns easily- they have a smooth, progressive, very Dynastar flex- and when you open them up in big turns they are just bomb-proof. I traded back before we got to bumps(on purpose) but MTT skied them right through the bumps pretty as you please. But then again, MTT is an excellent skier. So I say go for it. I'm going to look into them some more- they have a demo pair at Alta. You have to ski these properly, and I'm not sure I can do that everywhere in this length. But if you are considering a longer 8800, try these too.
post #37 of 48
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Originally Posted by Mr. Crab
  • I tried the Pros today and it's a great ski.
  • so I traded my 88's for his Pros.
  • I could fire off short fall line turns easily
  • You have to ski these properly, and I'm not sure I can do that everywhere in this length.
I hummed and hawwed over the pro's or the 8800's. I went 8800 for a faster action ski. I thought the pro would be that extra bit sluggy when not going warp speed or fast adn that it didn't come in 177 ish.

You say ski them properly. Does this mean there is no sleeping at the wheel? or that it likes to be skied a certain way and outside of that it's a handfull.

I really like the 8800 being forgiving when the ole body gets tired, I can still have fun, that it's pretty peppy edge to edge and still a go hard ski with attitude when you want. How does the pro compare? where does it differ?
post #38 of 48
i got the nobis inspired 178's 2 years ago. basically the same ski. it is a great ski but i need more. i'm 5'10'' 186lbs and am a strong expert. these work great back east when we get some good snow, in anything soft. i had them at alta/snowbird christmas time and in 12'' fresh pow. they just didn't feel stiff enough to really rip the cirque, etc. they are great in the trees. i think even in a longer length they may feel better in the open, but still soft and relatively narrow. like i said, these 178's are incredible in the tight trees back east, as long as the snow is soft. i'm eally considering trying the 186 legend pros, possibly the volkl gotamas, or the mantras in a 183 and 184 respectively.
post #39 of 48
in other words, the more i keep reading, the legend pro 186 seems ideal. the magazines really like it also. i think at 97 mm at waist, even in a 186, it would also be more than sufficient for cat or heli trips. anyone got more?
post #40 of 48
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Originally Posted by gunnenator
Hi, I really want to demos the Pros, but am unable to find them anywhere. ...
For all those who said they can't find the ski to demo, Snowbird has a Legend demo center, last week I saw several racks of 8000s, 8800s and Pros in their shop.

http://www.snowbird.com/ski_board/rentals.html
post #41 of 48
I'm just eating crow on this one. I'll refrain from offering second hand opinions in the future. By proper technique, I mean forward pressure and carving, like, they kept me honest- which is not a bad thing. I need to ski them more to find out if they work for me in more interesting places than wide open groomers.
post #42 of 48
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Originally Posted by denski
Bandit Man,

I took your advice and demo's the Mantra in 184. 6 inches of new snow and cut-up at Vail. I really liked this ski a lot.

A bit awkward at first, as I had never been on a ski that wide. I found the faster I skied, the more I liked them.

I was very impressed with their backside capabilities, and I think I'll pick up a pair for the rest of the year. Thanks!
This sound like a good choice. To get the pro, so that you have "the pro" is not a good reason at all. Yeah, You can ski it, but it won't be amazing to you. You will be able to extract more out of a ski like the Mantra or the 8800 because they are closer to your ability. You've admitted your not an expert (I'm not either, but I am realized that skis that a too big and too stiff are frustrating). I think coach mentioned blizzard titan 9's and bro models. Two good choices as well.

Save the Pro's for next year. When you're the skier they want.
post #43 of 48
Cost, of course, is another consideration.

I just ordered a pair of new 05 8800's for $450 - half price. Not going to find any new LP's for that.
post #44 of 48
ooo I'm such a retail gotta have em price sucker.

$450 nice deal, congrats.
post #45 of 48
Yeah...I normally love to give away money myself!

This will be the least expensive skis I've purchased in well over 6 years! Pretty sad comment.
post #46 of 48
srharv, i feel better that your jealous and insecure comments aren't soley directed at me. you treat everyone who has something you don't the same. i guess working at wal-mart must not be fulfilling your dreams. relax, i'm sure there is something out there that you can handle.
post #47 of 48
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Originally Posted by beebedave
srharv, i feel better that your jealous and insecure comments aren't soley directed at me. you treat everyone who has something you don't the same. i guess working at wal-mart must not be fulfilling your dreams. relax, i'm sure there is something out there that you can handle.
Presumably you're referring to my response on another thread that had wandered off to a liberal discussion of social entitlements?

I'm just sick of people complaining about / blaming others for their own shortfall. If you took that personally, you need to work that out on your own. Or perhaps you just can request some form of gov't subsidy!
post #48 of 48

Lp vs IM88?

Anyone have input as to the differences/similarities of the Dynastar LP vs the Head IM88?
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