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Moguls help

post #1 of 8
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I've been practicing alot of mogul skiing this season on blue/black and black runs, and the occasional double black. I'm doing well in improving, but I till have alot of problems with two types of mogul fields:

A) When the bumps are too far apart, I end up going too fast since my turns are so big to stay within the "layout" of the line chosen.

B) Deep, hard troughs on the side and backsides of some moguls fields. I find it hard to deal with these, and end up very out of control after hitting them hard and fast. Plus, I get out of control when I ski through a trough since it pulls my skis like a rut on a Nastar track would do. Any help on how to get better in these situations?

post #2 of 8

Make extra turns. You don't have to follow the rut (remember the immortal words of Astro? rut ro!) When the bumps are too far apart, turn out of the rut across the long bump to cut it in half.

I went to the mogul doctor and told him "Doc it hurts when I ski deep hard troughs." He was about to tell me to take two short skis and call him in the morning, but instead he just said "Well, then don't do that." Hop the ridge line along the edge of the trough instead of riding in it.

There are other ways, but I'm out of bad jokes.
post #3 of 8
Defjef it sounds like you are throwing your feet around quickly to turn in the bumps. Your turn is over before the turn can develop. The rest is all sliding sideways until the face of the next bump stops you. SLOW YOUR FEET DOWN. Turn downhill in a controlled manner that lets the skis do the work and the turn develop into a round turn. You have much more time to let the skis do the work than you think. Much more. The key to good mogul skiing is patience.

Go to the groomed and learn a short round turn that is very thight, then take that into the bumps. That's my two cents worth without seeing you ski.
post #4 of 8
My opinions, as said before, in open (spread out) bump fields, ski your own rythym, don't try to only ski the ruts, sometimes making even 2-4 turns between bumps. In deeper/tighter bumps, if you are having trouble zip-lining (which will have the highest amount of impact as well), change styles. When in tight bumps, try skiing 1/3-2/3 up the bump and use the shape of the bump to form the roundness of the turn (similar to the side door -> back-door tactic), by staying above the rut, you can have more control over skis and should feel like your skis aren't being tossed around or locked into the rut.

One thing I like to do my first run down any bump field is to make GS type turns (slowly) to activate the lower body, get recentered, and get an idea what to expect (how tight and deep the bumps are).

No matter how you approach a bump field, there are similar keys, hands up (and forward), be more forward than on groomers, activate your lower body (bending ankles, knees, and waist equally) and always drive the tips first. If you ever feel "out of whack", stop or traverse, re-center yourself and then start again. You want to focus on the turns that feel good, not the ones that feel bad.
post #5 of 8
Very good advice from everyone. Sometimes there is a good line of bumps and you get a good rythym going and then there's a space and you dont turn. you just wait for the bump. Thus, your speed picks up to the point where ou think you're ging too fast and then you have to bailout.

As stated in a post above. Throw a turn or two in between. This will keep your rythym and control your speed too.

I also like to ski the sides instead of the trough when the bumps are real deep or icy.
post #6 of 8
I also like Pierre's idea of practicing on the groomed. If you can't make linked quick, rounded turns on groomed, you aren't going to do it in the bumps.
post #7 of 8
Are you used to rising up to lighten your skis to make a turn...that's part of the problem. You need to retract both legs to lighten to absorb the bump and change edges.

You need your feet close together and the tips always in contact with the snow except on the crest of a bump when you turn your skis. Pull your feet back way under your hips to keep the tips in contact. As the skis approach the crest with your legs retracted, make a strong blocking pole plant for balance and press the tips into the downhill face of the bump. Lengthen your legs as you go down the bump, then retract your legs to absorb the next bump, and retract early rather than late. The route is your choice; you don't need to wait for the next bump to turn. With the tips in contact with the snow and your legs extending on the downslope and retracting early as you reach the trough & bump, you have the ski control you need to ski the course you need and to control your speed. Make tighter turns and finish more uphill if necessary to control speed. Here's an on line lesson

post #8 of 8
Originally Posted by SoftSnowGuy
... Here's an on line lesson
Never heard the term "phantom turns"? And not too sure what it is refering to. Somewhat close to my technique except that I'll get a rhythm going and use more upper body movements. ...dave
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