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Hi
I have seen some HEAD GS skis for sale.
What are these skis like?
post #2 of 17
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i.GS
post #3 of 17
The Worldcup iRace GS is best for club racing and freeskiing. As a free ski, its most useful at speed & making carved turns. It's not well adapted to short turns, bumps or softer snow. What size?

Michael
post #4 of 17
The i.GS RD is the true FIS racing version, with a radius of >21m. This ski is fairly heavy in the transition, locks into the carve and is extremely stable and damp. It's not hard to bend if you have solid skills.
post #5 of 17
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Originally Posted by D(C)
The i.GS RD is the true FIS racing version, with a radius of >21m. This ski is fairly heavy in the transition, locks into the carve and is extremely stable and damp. It's not hard to bend if you have solid skills.
I skied this in a 170 cm (5'10", 195 lbs, Level 9). I found it to be a very fun ski. It was surprisingly versatile and incredibly smooth. A great ski for the east.
post #6 of 17
We have a new gonzo. Not cool...
post #7 of 17
Common, don't be so harsh with him. If the shop told him that he has a real racing ski why don't let him believe that they exist in 170cm?
post #8 of 17
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Originally Posted by extremecarver
Common, don't be so harsh with him. If the shop told him that he has a real racing ski why don't let him believe that they exist in 170cm?
Actually, the i.GS RD is available in a 170, and in 5cm increments from there up to 190.

And, just for those who are curious, there's a big difference between this year's i.Race GS and last years. Last year's was a retail race ski (not as stiff, retail plate etc), but it had a FIS legal sidecut (>21m). This years has roughly the same construction, but is not FIS legal, it comes in at around 15 or 16m depending on the length.
post #9 of 17
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Originally Posted by CanuckInstructor
Actually, the i.GS RD is available in a 170, and in 5cm increments from there up to 190.
But 170 is legal only for Juniors - so why whould anyone ski a 170 adult ski if most companies already have very good performing (and cheap) junior GS skis up to 175/176?
post #10 of 17
I think that Junior skis are very different from their adult counterparts.

I was blown away by the 170's that I skied. If I was looking for an eastern ski that could do it all it would definitely fit the bill.
post #11 of 17
Which graphic was it? Last year's i-RACE was basically the old i-GS RD with a retail plate (that ski is back for 2007 as well) and was available in 170/175/180/185. Agreed that it is a superb ski. I haven't found a better freeskiing GS that gives the same amount of stability and power with ease of use. The Volkl P60 is close, but not quite as stable (same with the current Dynastar Course).
post #12 of 17
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Originally Posted by dawgcatching
Which graphic was it? Last year's i-RACE was basically the old i-GS RD with a retail plate (that ski is back for 2007 as well) and was available in 170/175/180/185. Agreed that it is a superb ski. I haven't found a better freeskiing GS that gives the same amount of stability and power with ease of use. The Volkl P60 is close, but not quite as stable (same with the current Dynastar Course).
It was this cat here: http://www.skimag.com/skimag/buyers_...ski259,00.html

Well said dawgatching.
post #13 of 17
Im gonna join into this discussion insted of starting a new Head GS thread.

I have this years 165cm i.SL RD and its a great ski . I have joined a masters skiing group and had my first GS experiance in 25y this week in form of a small culb competition. I came 6th of 12 so it was a great success for being a first timer and on SL skis. All the best guys were using non FIS Atomic GS11 and they were much better in controll than me although I did a great carving job allmost all the way through the track. My problem was that I lost speed when skidding a bit and also lost balance once and winded up with my ski tips pointing uphill. Anyway, now Im gonna sell a couple of old Atomic SL11's and buy a pair of Head GS skis. I have here listed my Head options:

- GS RD
- Worldcup i.Race CP13
- i.XRC 1200 SW CP13

Im 43y 190cm 6foot2 90kg 200pound strong level 9

GS RD
This is Heads this years FIS legal VIST plate equipped sandwich construction GS ski. It has a 21m turn radius and comes in lengths 180-185-190 (FIS minimum length for men is 185cm).

Worldcup i.Race CP13
This is the retail version of the GS consept ski. It has a turn radius of 16m and comes in lengths of max 184cm but shop only has a pair of 177cm left. It features true sandwich construction and Tyrolias caving plate.

i.XRC 1200 SW CP13
This is a very similair ski to the i.Race but a bit softer especially in the tip region. It is also a sandwich construction overcut GS ski like the i.Race but with different graphics and base.

Do you guys have any suggestions on wich ski I should buy? Im going to partisipate in master GS races locally and use them for free skiing on bigger slopes.
The biggest difference in the skis as I see it is in their stiffness and their turn radius. The RD's are also a lot more narrow in their tip and tail region and require therefore a longer lengths in order to make up for lost mass (my own theory).
One other thing to consider is also that the skis could be used for all mountain skiing such as powder and groomers. Something to complement my i.SL RD's.

Thanx in advance boyz .
post #14 of 17
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Originally Posted by tdk6
GS RD
This is Heads this years FIS legal VIST plate equipped sandwich construction GS ski. It has a 21m turn radius and comes in lengths 180-185-190 (FIS minimum length for men is 185cm).

Do you guys have any suggestions on wich ski I should buy? Im going to partisipate in master GS races locally and use them for free skiing on bigger slopes.
The biggest difference in the skis as I see it is in their stiffness and their turn radius. The RD's are also a lot more narrow in their tip and tail region and require therefore a longer lengths in order to make up for lost mass (my own theory).
The FIS 185 cm restriction applies to WC men. For mortals, the minimum is 180cm. At 180 and 185 lengths, the GS RD radius is a large 23.8 and 25.1 m respectively. The minimal sidecut makes for a fast race ski if you can bend it, but IMO a horrible ski for freeskiing. I'm not familiar with the other skis.

-T
post #15 of 17

i.GS FIS legal

Hi,

I'm new here, so first of all hello to everyone, especially the old boys.

I am from Europe, by the way, and I ski almost everything. Laterone more.

I skied the iGS in lenght 185. Compared to other FIS legal race stock skis I would describe it as a very smooth racing ski. As all Head race stock skis, it is very stable, lying flat on the snow, and carving smoothly like knife throug butter. If you want so, you could also call it a bit too soft and lazy, feedback and response are more perceivable with other companies.

Compared to other race stock skis in that length:

Atomic GS11 185 - more rigid, harder to ski, maybe little bit more precise
Fischer WC GS 183 or 188 - more rigid, very stiff, goes off like hill if you hit it right, beats you if you don't
Salomon S-Lab - didn't like it, skied like a girly ski, but that might also have been a finishing problem

I hoped this helped, full charge buddy.

Brgds,

freeski
post #16 of 17
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Originally Posted by tdk6
Im gonna join into this discussion insted of starting a new Head GS thread.

I have this years 165cm i.SL RD and its a great ski . I have joined a masters skiing group and had my first GS experiance in 25y this week in form of a small culb competition. I came 6th of 12 so it was a great success for being a first timer and on SL skis. All the best guys were using non FIS Atomic GS11 and they were much better in controll than me although I did a great carving job allmost all the way through the track. My problem was that I lost speed when skidding a bit and also lost balance once and winded up with my ski tips pointing uphill. Anyway, now Im gonna sell a couple of old Atomic SL11's and buy a pair of Head GS skis. I have here listed my Head options:

- GS RD
- Worldcup i.Race CP13
- i.XRC 1200 SW CP13

Im 43y 190cm 6foot2 90kg 200pound strong level 9

GS RD
This is Heads this years FIS legal VIST plate equipped sandwich construction GS ski. It has a 21m turn radius and comes in lengths 180-185-190 (FIS minimum length for men is 185cm).

Worldcup i.Race CP13
This is the retail version of the GS consept ski. It has a turn radius of 16m and comes in lengths of max 184cm but shop only has a pair of 177cm left. It features true sandwich construction and Tyrolias caving plate.

i.XRC 1200 SW CP13
This is a very similair ski to the i.Race but a bit softer especially in the tip region. It is also a sandwich construction overcut GS ski like the i.Race but with different graphics and base.

Do you guys have any suggestions on wich ski I should buy? Im going to partisipate in master GS races locally and use them for free skiing on bigger slopes.
The biggest difference in the skis as I see it is in their stiffness and their turn radius. The RD's are also a lot more narrow in their tip and tail region and require therefore a longer lengths in order to make up for lost mass (my own theory).
One other thing to consider is also that the skis could be used for all mountain skiing such as powder and groomers. Something to complement my i.SL RD's.

Thanx in advance boyz .
I also have last year's i-RACE available in 175/180 (the ski that I said would be back in 2007). It is 102/63/88 (the ski linked above, with a retail plate (the CP13, same as on the i-XRC 1200 SW)) which makes it the old i-GS RD (model number RS119), before they made the change to the 66 waist and bigger radius. The CP13 plate makes it even more friendly-the ski linked in the pic above has a 2-piece VIST plate, which is a bit stiffer underfoot. So, that makes 4 Head options (if the 180 works for you). Feel is very similiar to the i-SL RD's, and they ski superbly on groomers. Not for powder or off-piste stuff (maybe 4" of crud, but I tried my i-GS RD's in over a foot of uncut snow, and they just wanted to run straight unless I had enough pitch to get some angulation. They are really stiff and won't flex in soft snow-alot of work, not much fun.

I would suggest a 17m ski if you are doing beer league type stuff or just starting out, and 21m ski for skiing full GS. The 17m skis come around awfully quick and like to hook up more in the tip and carve. The 21m skis need to be told when to turn-they won't do so on their own, without driver input.
post #17 of 17
Thanks for all your feedback. However, now Im more confused than before.... I need to demo some of the skis to really find out what I want. Somehow I think the 17m radius would be a better option but on the other hand Im a great fan of racing skis and I really like the feel of VIST plate skis.
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