Originally Posted by Atomicman
Martin is 53 I maybe just turned 54 last week.
Yeah, Marin would be about 53ish.
I spent a lot of time with him today, maybe 5 hours total over two sessions.
First, they are reducing their seasonal stock of boots, and did not have any of the higher volume boots in my size. There was an issue here, I think Martin gave me wrong info. He had me try on a Technica 10 boot (they didn't have the high volume version) and I couldn't even get my foot in the thing. He said the only difference between the two was the liner. But a few weeks ago when I was in there, I tried on the same boot and it fit okay - snug, maybe tight, but not crippling.
Moving along, he suggested possibly getting some intuition liners for my old boots, and then moving with the liners to new boots next season. If you assume that breaking in liners is some significant portion of the whole boot fitting process, the idea doesn't sound all wrong. Especially if the liners fix most of my [too loose] fit issues.
So he fired up some test liners for my old boots, and they felt good enough to give me hope.
We then went into more detail to get the final liners 'just right'. After messing with things for quite a while, we got to basically the final product, and I put my feet in them and.... they felt pretty good.
Then I wore them for a while. And then a while more. And they started to hurt a little, in the same old places along the outside. So Martin punched out the boot just a little more. And then they hurt in a little different spot, and martin punched out the boot just a little there. And then I wore them for more.. and more.. and then my toes started to fall asleep.. and the top of my foot hurt..
I was reaching my endurance point, and martin was off, so we called it quits.
Atomicman, why don't the intuition liners work for you? It's interesting what you say about them being too hard. At the end of our session, I pulled the liners out of the boots and could pretty much feel in the liner where it was stiff around my foot. I'm not really convinced that making the boot bigger really does much to get the liner away from your foot.
Anyway, I spent a good portion of the day feeling pretty hopeful and encouraged. But at the end of the day, I was pretty beat up. I'm going back on Sunday to see if we can do better.