Originally Posted by Rick
Jazz, did you understand what Disski is saying here? It's very astute.
With ILE the extension should be very subtle, and no uphill CM movement should accompany the extension. This is what Disski is alluding to. Simply push down very softly on your old inside foot till you feel pressure shift to it (it only involves an inch or two of extension) then as the state of imbalance that shift of pressure creates causes your CM to start moving across your skis, drive your old outside (downhill) knee into the new turn to help pull yourself up onto a nice high edge angle for the new turn.
Works very well, provides great continuous skis to snow contact, and shows little up/down movement. SSH can attest to how well it works and how good it feels. He and I were working on these at Breck last week and he was making some great ones at very high edge angles, with little up motion. Creating so many G's he was overpowering the snow. First time he put it all together he was lovin it so much he was laughing out loud as he skied.
Inside Leg extension and Outside Leg Relaxation are very similar. Both transfer pressure to the old inside ski, create imbalance, and set the CM into motion. The differences are minor, but distinct. OLR produces a down motion of the CM as pressure is tossed onto the old inside leg, and the leg catches it. That creates a bit of a lag period before stable pressure is reestablished. ILE eliminates that CM drop and lag period, as the extension is the mechanism for that pressure transfer. Extension makes the leg stronger, and controls how pressure is transferred. The more extension, the stronger the leg becomes, the more pressure transfers. It's a harmonic relationship.
Cross-under is a retraction move, a relaxation of both legs. It differs from both ILE and OLR, as it's a pressure elimination technique. Has it's situational benefits, but it sacrifices continuous skis to snow engagement.
In a thread elsewhere, you suggested that the ILE produces a minor up movement, now none at all.
The OLL folks could say a similar thing -- there is no down -- it's the slope falls that away from the CM, as the inside leg lenghthens, and does not catch the CM prior/during crossover.
The simple minded summary is:
1) ILE does Transfer, Release, Engage
2) OLL does Release, Transfer, Engage.
If there is no "up" in the ILE, and no "down" in the OLL, then the transfer and release components must be simultaneous -- making them the same turn.....
To me it appears there is no difference between an ILE turn and the EWS turn we discussed at length last year....
Or did I miss something?