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supersport 6 stars questions, please help

post #1 of 30
Thread Starter 
I have purchased a pair of 6 stars off ebay for a pretty price. I also sold my old k2 mod x pros. I ski powder and I ski bumps and occasional groomers. I know that my pow skiing will suffer slightly, but I am not too concerned, they are only 2mm skinnier than my old skis but they have a wider shovel. So, with that said, I read the reviews about the supersports but I want some more feedback. My question is how well do they handle bumps? I ski them hard and fast and I am hoping that I can still do it on these skis. By the way, I am 22, 145 lbs, have a pair of 175s and average 30 days of very aggressive skiing a season.
post #2 of 30
IMO you should be on shorter skis. How tall are you? I felt the six star was a stiff ski, almost a detuned GS ski, good luck in the bumps. Good thing your young.
My 48 y/o legs love my G3's. The G3 is a good all round ski and easy in the bumps.
post #3 of 30
I agree the 168s would probably be better considering you are light.

How tall are you?
post #4 of 30
I used the 5 star last year on very hard pack (east coast) bumps. Not bad in the bumps, stiff ski.
The 6 star is a beefier version of the 5, I have heard they are almost too much ski to enjoy the entire day. When you start to tire out, the ski will kick your butt!
I think the 5 would be better in the bumps.
i am 6'0 and 170 and i used the 175 last year, would have gotten the 168 myself because it skis so big you are not going to give up any performance.
post #5 of 30
First Unless your 5 ft tall gain some f'n weight. Second, If your an aggressive skier I'm sure you'll be fine. If it were up to most the guys on this board we would all be skiing 140s with huge cuts. Being 22 I hope you are more aggressive and ski harder than the 40+ year olds that hang out on this board. Now, you will lose some float with those bad boys since they are only 68 underfoot. You may want to pick up some fat boards to compliment the 6 stars. Since your pretty light pick up some boards with maybe low 80s underfoot to ride the deep. If you don't have the bank roll for two pairs then just rip it with the 6 stars. Good Luck and always remember good skiers will rip any conditions on any skis.
post #6 of 30
I think you might have a hard time adjusting to the 175s because of your weight. I used a pair of 175 5 stars all last season (see my profile pic) and found the length to be perfect despite being used to skiing and racing on much longer straight skis; in high school on 203cm Volkls for GS and 195 K2s for slalom and then on 198 Bandit X during college for freeskiing. I am also 6'1" and I weighed around 230lbs last season, so I suspect I am quite a bit taller, heavier and stronger than you.
The 6 stars are a supposedly a beefier ski so it may take a while to get used to them. Although I suspect you will be able to ski them and probably do quite well, you would probably be better off with the 168s (or shorter?).

Good luck with the skis, let us know how they are the first time you take them out.
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post #7 of 30
They'll be kick-ass on the groomed. Everywhere else, maybe a bit much? [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img]
post #8 of 30
Thread Starter 
Hey guys,
I wanted to thank everyone for their comments on the volkls. It was helpful. Here a few more of my own thoughts. Yeah yeah, I am on the lighter end of the scale, I am 5'10". A few counter points that I want to hear some rebuttles for to strengthen my thoughts about these skis. I skied a 182 Mod X Pro last year, the sidecut isnt the same, but it is close. Second, at 168 the turn radius has a 16m turn radius so I figured a 175 length would offset that measurement a little and give me a larger turn radius. I have flexed the k2 and the volkl and while the volkl is noticebly stiffer, I do not feel like it is incredibly stiffer. And finally, the waist of hte k2's were 70, these are 68's. I skied the deep in those with ease so I thought everything would be cool on a 68. Ok, what do you guys think?

Thanks again
post #9 of 30
Thread Starter 
Wow, I just read my own post and it comes off like my grammar is at the level of a fifth grader. I hope you can excuse the mistakes, and give me some good info. It has been a long week of engineering classes and I am pretty burnt.
post #10 of 30
First off, I know nothing about the 6 stars, but I did ski the 5 stars last year and right before I came off the Mod X pro just like you. My only advice is SKI THEM SHORT! I wouldnt go longer than 161. I weigh about 165, and am also 5'10, so Im also on the lighter end. The 168s I demoed for the 5 star were great dont get me wrong, but after demoing the 161's, I was sold. The fun factor on those shorties is insane. I pulled off turns I never even knew I had in me. Hey, I was a great skier on the Mod X's, but the 161 5 stars turned me into one of the most skilled and pretty carvers on the mountain. My friends said they thought I bought that wacky skiers edge gizmo over the summer because I was THAT GOOD. Trust me when I say, SHORTER IS BETTER. You wont regret it and I can bet everything I have on that (Ive gotten pretty animated about this now as you can tell!). Dont listen to what anyone else has to say. They are all wrong unless they agree with me (haha I hate to say it but its true). Cheers
post #11 of 30
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Being 22 I hope you are more aggressive and ski harder than the 40+ year olds that hang out on this board.
bwaaah hah hah. nice try Pouter troll. kiss my 42-yr-old hiney... if you can catch it, on skis OR on a mtn bike.
post #12 of 30
Thread Starter 
The next time you are out in CO drop me a line and I will smoke your ass on the grass dirt or the pow. And if I am ever back east, where I grew up ripping at stowe and the bush I will show you how to really ski an east coast mountain, trick ass bitch.
post #13 of 30
Woah big fella! You might want to think about easin off those roids huh?
post #14 of 30
CrazyDane,

How are the 5 stars in powder? How about on our lovely east coast hardpack/ice? I'm in the market for new skis and the 5 stars are on my list. Love to hear what you think.

Thanks.
post #15 of 30
5 stars in pow are decent. Not quite like a midfat, but the wide shovel does its job two fold as both a floatation device and as a carve machine. Regarding hardpack, theres really nothing better in my opinion. Really, NOTHING BETTER. I dont care whatever any of those other so called pros think, but trust me. Ive demoed alot of skis and nothing even comes close. Ice is pretty good too. These skis tend to chatter more so than other skis such as the K2 XT, but for me, I kind of like that. It gives the whole experience an exquisite sense of vitality. Take that statement for what its worth. Skiing is about feeling alive, and going at high speeds on ice, and the ski's chatter defoningly resonating below me makes me realize what an incredible rush Im actually going through. Not too many people can appreciate that, but I say they dont really know the sport then. Yeah thats right, exactly what I said. Hope that helps ya, Im about out right now. Off to get leggless if you hear me. Skol
post #16 of 30
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Originally posted by cumerritt:
The next time you are out in CO drop me a line and I will smoke your ass on the grass dirt or the pow. And if I am ever back east, where I grew up ripping at stowe and the bush I will show you how to really ski an east coast mountain, trick ass bitch.
Hey, Down Boy! Gonzostrike wasn't even talking to you, he was replying to the gay post by SkiUbum04.
Hoowah, you are charged up! I think the 175's might even be too short : for you.

BTW, I wouldn't be so sure you're going to kick the butt of a guy with probably 20 more years skiing experience than you. Unless you grew up in a good racing program, a lot of young guys aren't nearly as hot as they think they are. My skiing is a lot better now than it was 10 years ago (when I thought I was THE SHITT).

You may be every bit as good as you say you are, but I guarantee you that there are at least a few 40+ year olds around here that will probably leave you crying at the bar.

And no, I'm not one of them but I've got the 6 stars on my wish list also! [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img]
post #17 of 30
Go easy in the bumps if you don't want them to break.

Seen quite a few pairs have a change in flex pattern this season after coming through some bumps.
post #18 of 30
Thread Starter 
Ok, sorry for the outburst, I guess I got a little amped up for ski season. If anyone wants these skis they are on ebay with a reserve of only $600 bucks. I am getting the intuitiv 71's instead. I made an impulse purchase on these skis because of the price I got. Now someone else can have a great pair of skis for a couple hundred less than all the other sellers on ebay. I really appreciate everyone's advice about the skis.
post #19 of 30
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Originally posted by Seth:
Go easy in the bumps if you don't want them to break.

Seen quite a few pairs have a change in flex pattern this season after coming through some bumps.
Finally someone else who agrees that last years Volkls bend in the bumps and wipeouts.

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post #20 of 30
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Originally posted by cumerritt:
Ok, sorry for the outburst, I guess I got a little amped up for ski season. If anyone wants these skis they are on ebay with a reserve of only $600 bucks. I am getting the intuitiv 71's instead. I made an impulse purchase on these skis because of the price I got. Now someone else can have a great pair of skis for a couple hundred less than all the other sellers on ebay. I really appreciate everyone's advice about the skis.
You must learn to better harmonize your Chi :
post #21 of 30
What was gay about SkiUbum04's post? Anyhoo, it was pretty funny the way it developed. Kind of like the plot of a sitcom revolving around a misunderstanding. [img]graemlins/evilgrin.gif[/img]
post #22 of 30
The graphics on the Volk star range are a little gay :
post #23 of 30
Firstly, why do you guys all post your weight/height in imperial then talk in metric for ski lengths? Conversions please.

I don't know what your measurements are but from the posts it sounds like you're light. I'm 168cm f, and I ski the 5 stars in a 161 although since I've seen the piston binding on the 6 stars I'm just a little jealous.

I love my skis and find they do everything I want. I do believe the 6 star are a bit stiffer which may be a hinderence in the bumps but then...it would be a nice edge on the groom.

Unfortunate thing is Volkls tend to be thinner (top sheet to base) than others so too much base tunning will wear them down. Which I guess is only a consideration for Southern skiers. I've also pretty much skiied out the camber on mine this year but then we don't really have the lovely soft stuff you guys do.

In all, if you want an all mountain northern hemisphere ski that is cruisy in the bumps I would think the 5 star, but if you like going fast the 6 star. Length? How tall/weight in metric are you? In the days of straights I skied 195, when I bought these they were trying to talk me into 150 somethings but I'm really happy on 161.

Hope that helps
post #24 of 30
Oh yeah, and Man from OZ....

The graphics really don't help when you loose your ski in pow in a blizzard

BTW how awesome is it at the moment!!!
post #25 of 30
And ... singsing, they rock on ice if A) you keep them tuned and B)if you throw the edge in well. Like any ski, they will edge with those two conditons.

Come to Oz, that is one thing we do know how to do.
post #26 of 30
Thread Starter 
Hey guys,

Listen, we Americans can do the conversions in our heads. Secondly, those supersports are up on ebay and selling for $610 if anyone wants them. I just bought some intuitiv 71's for much much much less.

Thanks for everyone's advice about the skis
post #27 of 30
Thread Starter 
Hey guys,

Listen, we Americans can do the conversions in our heads. Secondly, those supersports are up on ebay and selling for $610 if anyone wants them. I just bought some intuitiv 71's for much much much less.

Thanks for everyone's advice about the skis
post #28 of 30
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Originally posted by Dark Horse:
What was gay about SkiUbum04's post? Anyhoo, it was pretty funny the way it developed...
Yeah, it was mostly amusing, but it gets a little gay when these guys that think they're too good to waste their time posting here suddenly show up and try to talk the talk. Making assumptions that most skiers here are 40+ and that they don't ski aggressively is the kind of talk that guys like SkiUbum04 usually aren't able to back up.

But he's young. He'll get a few spankings from a couple of old guys soon enough. Heee hah ha [img]tongue.gif[/img] [img]tongue.gif[/img]
Anybody want to put some money on that one??
post #29 of 30
Ohhhhh Carvemeister,

I'm sorry if I offended you. Of course there are a number of 40 year olds that still ski hard and could show me a thing or two on the slopes. However I think for the most part younger skiers tend to be more aggressive skiers than older skiers. While that may be a generalization it is no worse than saying 40+ skiers can beat the snot out 20 somethings heading down the mountain. Let me know when you in CO next and maybe we can teach each other a few things.
post #30 of 30
That's OK SkiUbum, I wasn't offended, just offering some backup for my geriatric comrades. Some of them are just too exhausted after a hard day of skiing or shopping, so they often fall asleep at their keyboards in a puddle of drool, unable or unwilling to defend themselves past dinnertime.

I've seen it at a few Master's racing events. It's a shocking story which has been covered up by the mainstream media.
Myself, I always enjoy skiing with the younger guys anyhow. It makes me appreciate the hot tub a whole lot more than I normally do. I will look you up next time I'm in Colorado, as long as I can get a place with a hot tub, and electric blankets in my room.
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