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Video From Jay Peak(Thanks WTFH:))

post #1 of 20
Thread Starter 
Heres are is a clip from Jay Peak the 21st of Dec, the day after passing my L2 skiing exam
Skier = Me 4th year of skiing 3rd year teaching. 22 years old, 175lb 5'10, not really sure what level maybe 8 maybe 9
Skis = 162 B5s
Boots = Salomon X-wave 10s
Snow = tracked powder that was knee deep in the morning
Run = Beyond Beaver Pond

Tell me what you guys think, I am open to critism(or praise), and want to know if this was up to "Level 3" skiing standards.

http://skiing.wtfh.com/Video/JayPeakJosh_0001.wmv
post #2 of 20
Nice turns and use of terrain. Amazing how great an incentive trees are for making the turns isn't it.

You are handling the bumps well. Good rythum. I did notice a few minor spots where you got knocked around just a bit. This is well above level II minimums. I'll leave it up to the LIIIs and above out there to critique how close to Level III it actually is.
post #3 of 20
You've only been skiing for four years and you can ski like that? Wow.

I'm not close to being qualified to say what LII vs LIII skiing looks like, but I'm impressed.
post #4 of 20
i wouldn't know my center of mass from a hole in the ground but that's nice skiing. looks fun, "alive," and man, that is some cool terrain with icing on top. i like the hand position and use of pole plants. i think i'd be in back a lot and bending at the waist plenty through that route.

"fun and alive" probably doesn't cut it when it comes time to test for a pin, does it?
post #5 of 20
Thread Starter 
here is another link to let the servers rest
http://www.autoxphotos.com/other/Jay...0Josh_0001.wmv
post #6 of 20
Kid, "You got it like that"! That's some very good skiing in tough off piste terrain. The fact that you have only skied 4 years in total , makes your skiing even more impressive.
post #7 of 20
Man that looks like a lot of fun.

IMHO (I'm a 2 working on 3), these are solid level 2 turns. Despite being steep and deep, you're getting bounced around too much for this to be level 3 quality turns. There's a lot of little stuff across the skill spectrum that marks the difference between 2 and 3. At a high level this adds up to smoother and more energetic. Getting your level 2 in 4 years of skiing is a great accomplishment. Keep getting good coaching and you'll quickly get to level 3 as well.

One tip for you is to not necessarily let other ski tracks suck you into following them. A couple of your wobbles come from following in the rut when an extra turn might have controlled your speed better.
post #8 of 20

Not an instructor

I just fell compelled to compliment you on your sking. You have skills and react well to tight varialbe conditions. The only way you could have done better would be to improve your phisical conditioning, and just keep doing what your doing.

Whith regard to line selection you might want to start taking the path less traveled, I saw some turns where you could have hit some fresh or broken but stayed within the packed out line.

Again WELL DONE, nice to see a skier who gets it!
post #9 of 20
nice LII skiing. LIII not yet. (take it with a grain of salt because I'm not there yet either)

Little bit aft in balance. not enough flow or fluidity and getting bounced and pushed around a little too much. need to be more on top of your skis and get the skis working more. You need to be able to ski that with fewer hickups and "stops" to the flow. Too many times you hunt for a "better" place to turn.

All in all great skiing. Especially for a 4th season skier.

JMHO

DC

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post #10 of 20
Thread Starter 
so works on tactics and conditioning?(in this case strenght I assume).

FYI it was tons of fun, I dont get to ski terrain like this day day to being from PA. My resorts hasnt had bumps yet this year. There is some tree skiing that never gets bumped up though. Thanks for the feedback, and keep it coming. I am planning on taking my L3 skiing next year sometime, even if I am not quite ready yet, and will need all the help I can get.

More videos to come shortly, from my home resort of Hidden Valley.
post #11 of 20
Good skiing and looks like some awesome conditions.
post #12 of 20
So YOU are the one who stole my line that day! Just Kidding!

First, I would never guess that you've only skied for 4 years. Clearly, you've taken to the sport quite well. Good for you and keep up the hard work developing your technique.

Second, I am not an instructor, but I am a woods skier, so I have some suggestions. I have found that doing exercises that strengthen my core have helped tremendously in the variable conditions you find in the woods (also help in powder and moguls). You'll have a much more stable feeling, less being thrown around. Also, balance exercises are helpful. As others have said, taking an untracked line makes a difference too (when you can find one). However, I suspect this is a matter of experience: the more time you spend on snow, the easier it is to feel comfortable in looking for the untracked line in the woods or ungroomed. Oftentimes, our head tells us to "go where everyone else went" even though it's not necessarily the best route. There are several times where you had no hesitation taking an untracked route, so you're on your way down the right path.

Keep having fun! But stop showing videos of how great it is at Jay.

Thatsagirl
post #13 of 20
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Originally Posted by BushwackerinPA
so works on tactics and conditioning?(in this case strenght I assume).
Core strength and balance.
post #14 of 20
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Originally Posted by BushwackerinPA
I am planning on taking my L3 skiing next year sometime, even if I am not quite ready yet, and will need all the help I can get.
Go to Pro Jam instead. The only feedback you get during exams is the occaisonal dirty look and the written assessment at the end. At Pro Jam, you will get a much better sense of what areas you are weak in and what you need to do to fix them.

I've been doing the level 3 skiing prep focus at Pro Jam for the last 4 seasons. My clinic notes are posted on my web site . These might give you a better idea of some of the things involved in getting ready for level 3.
post #15 of 20
I'll back up what Rusty says. Take some of the Level III skiing prep courses and the prerequisites. The examiners in these courses will give you great feedback and a bunch of ideas on what you can do to get better. Also, if you don't have one, get yourself a mentor. Someone you trust to tell you like it is. (Not like you wish it was.) I've had a couple of great mentors and they have made the difference.

I'm also envious as hell. Having the guts to hit the Level III exam in your 5th year of skiing!!!!!!!!!!!! Man, I wish I was able put it together that quick. (Of course I think I'm almost twice your age. I know, I know, I know; old fart, old fart, old fart.)
post #16 of 20
Gawd dam that looks fun. Nice skiing kid.
post #17 of 20
First, your are skiing really well for having only 4 years behind you. But with all due respect, I would have never guessed that you are a LII from that video. That is not LII skiing in my book (certainly not LIII). However, that terrain is challenging and could break down your normal form. I would be curious to see how you ski on normal terrain.

I hope this does not come across too harsh. I am being very honest here.
post #18 of 20
Thread Starter 
Eh yeah that last comment was harsh considering 2 outta of 3 examiers I had for the exam, didnt even hold an Exam, and we just cliniced towards futures exams.

I forget at the time, but I probably was tired, we skied all day that day with a 30 min lunch break, that video was taken at around 3pm, on the 3rd day of skiing in Vermont. Home Hill being only 430 foot of vert, and groomed flat everyday no matter what

honesty is appreciated though, and I should have some groomer skiing up shortly from my home resort.

TomB are using CSIA or PSIA standards?
post #19 of 20
You look like a young guy having fun in a challenging situation. You're handling it well. Not an appropriate view for evaluating your skiing in general. You're obviously an exceptional athlete. Like Tom, I'd like to see you on an open slope.
post #20 of 20
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Originally Posted by BushwackerinPA
Eh yeah that last comment was harsh considering 2 outta of 3 examiers I had for the exam, didnt even hold an Exam, and we just cliniced towards futures exams .....

honesty is appreciated though, and I should have some groomer skiing up shortly from my home resort.

TomB are using CSIA or PSIA standards?
I hesitate to say that I use CSIA/PSIA standards because they vary so much. And the certification depends on the examiner and his/her standards of excellence. That can vary also!

Honestly, I am using my own perception of what I would expect from an LII instructor. Perhaps my expectations are too high. I did see your groomed skiing video and I am on the fence. Your short turns are a bit "old school" and some examiners would see that as a show stopper for LII certification.

But I have to mention again, that with only 4 years behind you, your skiing is extremely impressive. Be very proud of that, because most skiers don't get there in a lifetime of skiing.
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