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1080 Gun or Rossi B4 for AT

post #1 of 17
Thread Starter 
I'm trying to decide on a new set of AT boards for my Fritschi Freeride bindings.

A bit of background; I'm 6'1", 200 lbs, aggressive, expert skier. I currently have some 184 Volkl Mantras for every day and 189 K2 Maden Aks for big powder outings. I also still have my 5 year old 185 pocket rockets.

I would like my AT setup to be versatile enough for resort backside yo-yo runs, as well as full day tours and even hut trips. Basically, I don't want to wish I was on my Mantras or Madens everytime I'm on the AT boards, but I still want a setup that's relatively light.

Although the Pocket Rockets are on the soft side, they are quite light and I've heard that the new 1080 Guns are slightly stiffer. They seem like a good possibility. The Rossi B4s also seem like they could fit the bill, but I've never skied them. I'm also considering the 183 sugar daddy.

I'm also open to any other considerations. For length I like the 185 range and at least 90mm under foot.

Any advice is greatly appreciated.

Thanks
post #2 of 17
I was under the assumption that though the 1080 gun is stiffer, it is a mogul ski is it not.
post #3 of 17
Thread Starter 
I also hear it is stiffer, but I would love to hear some opinions from people who have skied both.
post #4 of 17
how about some dynastar legend 8800s? i have never skied them but from what i read here they could fit your needs.
post #5 of 17

Gun

My Salomon Rep. tells me that the Gun is only slightly stiffer in the tail area. Hope this helps.
post #6 of 17
The 1080 Gun isn't a whole lot stiffer than the PR, but the 1080 Gun LAB is. I was checking out a pair in the shop a few days ago and they are some of the lightest fat skis out there. Perfect for AT.
post #7 of 17
Why these two?

How about soft Bro's?

almost a 1 for everything with Free Rides.
post #8 of 17
The binding mounting area on the B4 will cause problems for you with AT bindings, if you want a Rossi consider the Powder bird or Sickbird.
post #9 of 17
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the info on bindings for the B4. I was wondering if they would fit alright?

I'm absolutely not just considering these 2 skis. The only requirement is to have something at least 90mm under foot that is relatively light. I've also been considering the G3 Reverend, but I'm wary to get an AT specific ski for fear of a lack of durability. Perhaps I'm way off the mark here, but I've often heard that AT skis can't take the day to day abuse that normal alpine skis can?
post #10 of 17
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MTT
Why these two?

How about soft Bro's?

almost a 1 for everything with Free Rides.

I've never known anyone who has skied the Bros. Are they really that good? What's the weight like?
post #11 of 17
I've not skied the Reverand but have skied the Baron - its a damp ski so try before you buy.

If you're touring you'll be in soft snow. Use the PR's = Im surprised theyre still alive after 5 years but even if they have no more camber who cares? Its soft snow. They're mount well with FRides - mount them the same point as your alpines. Getting skins on the PR's you may require a rat-tail or clipfix but that still works fine.

The 8800 is a great ski and you'd probably be on a 185 or so. You could get on a Bro or a B4 too but these skis are all heavier then a PR. Weight is not a good thing for your touring setup.
post #12 of 17
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Originally Posted by screamrider
I've never known anyone who has skied the Bros. Are they really that good? What's the weight like?
I ski the soft Bro's (Not that soft)
I have Free rides on them, they feel about half the weight of my Dynastar Legend Pro's, they are almost as good as my LP's @ top speed in rough snow. Close for railing groomer's, Rule the world in POW. They are light but very damp and strong.
The perfromance advantage under high stress may be nothing more than the FreeRides mounted on the Bro's (Not the ski)

Are they really that good? Yes and when talking about versital AT and inbounds rig this is it.

I am not gonna throw any TGR links here but you should see the posts,pic's and video of some of the best Back country skiers in the world getting it done on the pretty blue ski's.
post #13 of 17
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MTT
I ski the soft Bro's (Not that soft)
I have Free rides on them, they feel about half the weight of my Dynastar Legend Pro's, they are almost as good as my LP's @ top speed in rough snow. Close for railing groomer's, Rule the world in POW. They are light but very damp and strong.
The perfromance advantage under high stress may be nothing more than the FreeRides mounted on the Bro's (Not the ski)

Are they really that good? Yes and when talking about versital AT and inbounds rig this is it.

I am not gonna throw any TGR links here but you should see the posts,pic's and video of some of the best Back country skiers in the world getting it done on the pretty blue ski's.
You have me convinced to give these a much closer look! Thanks for the great input. Is there a big difference between the various sitffnesses? There are 3 correct?
post #14 of 17
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Originally Posted by screamrider
You have me convinced to give these a much closer look! Thanks for the great input. Is there a big difference between the various sitffnesses? There are 3 correct?
I would say there is a difference; I think it depends on what you want.
Soft’s are the lightest, and as I said VERY CAPABLE. If I did not own Legend Pro's I would have gone stiff, they also make a Very Stiff.

And the guys at PM Gear will talk you through it.

This is one of those rare occasions where I can say with absolute conviction that (You will not be sorry)

PS: they have a 179CM in the pipe for those who prefer something shorter and even lighter.
post #15 of 17

Nice move

Sceamrider,
Just wanted to congratulate you on your decision (I saw the other tread)

You made a very good choice. Kind of sucks you have to wait for them to be made, but I believe you will get an even better ski than I have, if that’s possible.

I look forward to your feedback once you ski them.

Enjoy
MTT
post #16 of 17
if one 1080 model is a tad stiffer it's the foil. 88mms.
post #17 of 17
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MTT
Sceamrider,
Just wanted to congratulate you on your decision (I saw the other tread)

You made a very good choice. Kind of sucks you have to wait for them to be made, but I believe you will get an even better ski than I have, if that’s possible.

I look forward to your feedback once you ski them.

Enjoy
MTT
MTT, you're the one I need to thank for showing my the light with the Bros! Thanks for your input and advice. Fortunately (depending how you look at it) I'm out of the country for another month anyway so there's not even a chance for me to ski until end of February. The skis will make a great welcome home present though!!

In the back of my head I still question whether I should go with the stiffs, but I think the softs would be better for AT? It's hard since all I have is feedback from these forums to make my decision. That being said, the feedback is great, it's just hard to digest all the different opinions out there.
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