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post #151 of 165
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Originally Posted by SLATZ
That last clip on OLN of Rocca on the final pitch at Adelboden shows a lot of one ski dominance. Even a Phil Mahre stem-step (yes the real one)
Close examination in slow motion shows one ski off the snow from transition through initiation in most WC SL turns that have much offset.
I've been having pretty good luck having my kids focus on a more dominate outside ski and less daylight between their legs in the rounder turns.

Oh! Judging by the angle the pole is falling in that third pic I'd say she "pinched" that one quite a bit.
Good Eye, she sure is "pinched. A racer gets pinched when they get "behind the course" (running too straight for whatever reason"). Darron Rhalves was about to win the GS second run at Adelboden and got horrible pinched coming onto the last face which resulted in him crashing.

Another great example of "The Pinch". This time in GS. In Slalom a racer can more easily recover from getting pinched, in GS, well, first it hurts, second it really slows you down and third, a lot of times you tangled in the gate and crash.



Good point relating to the importance of line!
post #152 of 165
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Originally Posted by HeluvaSkier
I think we established in my first thread that the tip lift is a bad thing... although I wouldn't mind skiing like some of those girls... Watch for more video Sunday evening (probably a shorter clip that either shows or does not show improvement). Should I post a new thread or keep it in the same one?
Later
GREG
New thread since this one has taken so many twists and turns, or the same one, or,,,,
post #153 of 165
Pierre
Any comments were meant to be constructive. Since he is a racer his free skiing is writing the program for his race runs. The style he's using is simialer to the way people skied after seeing a picture of Killy in the back seat. That is, it's stylized from shots of Mario Matt, Benji Raich and Manfred Pranger about two years ago. I've got one kid who makes all his free runs like that. Every time he comes to a delay or a reaching turn on the steep he goes over backwards.
Check out some current pictures of those same guys and you'll see the difference. (you'll probably only find Raich, the other two aren't doing as well and don't get time on camera)
post #154 of 165
Thread Starter 
SLATZ, Am I actually skiing in the backseat or that the way I am skiing can lead to backseat skiing? That is something I have never been accused of in my life accept at the occasional quick roller or pitch change. In fact, usually it is just the opposite... FWIW, I am actually on 165's. I am curious to hear more of your thoughts on this though.
Later
GREG
post #155 of 165
Hi everyone, you are doing some great things with video! I just want to give a tip for using V1. You can record the OLN World Cup coverage on your PC with V1 by using your digital camera as a DV bridge to convert the analog signal to digital. Or you can buy a DV bridge if your camera doesn't perform that function.

The result is video that you can analyze with V1. Gary and Rusty can then do a detailed analysis with their professional versions of V1. Any frame can be studied in great detail.

Any V1 Home user can also put video in your V1 locker and give epic members your email and password to watch the video from your locker. This provides greater control of the video and makes it easy to share.

Hope this makes things easier for you. Keep up the good work.

Mike Seiler
v1sports.com
post #156 of 165
No I didn't imply that you are in the backseat. I was just trying to say how people look at a picture and try to imitate it. Like everyone skiing in the backseat after seeing pictures of Killy.
What I will point out though is that the "chair" position used to ski in that bowlegged stance will put you in the backseat if you try to hold it and complete the turn more (farther across the hill) like the kid on my team. If you looked at videos of those guys back then that bowlegged look was mostly in the transition and entry of the turn. The daylight between their legs disappeared as they increased edge angle into the gate. One of my friends has a picture on his dash(for the benefit of his kid) of Raich back then just about to contact a gate. His hip is almost touching the ground and there is no daylight between his legs. His outside knee is touching his inside ski between the heel and toe of the binding. His tracks are about 18" wide. Work on that image

I remember from another thread you mentioned that when you try to ski with a "narrow stance" (notice I haven't used that term until now and only with quotation marks) that your inside ski "got in the way". Make sure that you are canted neutral or slightly positive and try again, keeping the above image in mind.

Another static drill that I learned from HH (who, by the way, was given high regards as a race coach from a coach that I respect very much) is this:
On a gentle slope, with skis quite close together, make two little downhill edge grooves.
Assume an angulated position on your downhill edges.
Quickly switch to an angulated position on your uphill edges
Proceed to switch quickly from one position to the other without the aid of poles.
Tip: It's much easier the closer your skis are together. It's almost impossible in a wide stance.

Take that into your free skiing, again keeping the image of Raich in mind.
Good Luck, keep in touch.
I'm going to see U.P.Racer this weekend (and give him a taste of the "F-1" Bloody Mary mix)
post #157 of 165
Thread Starter 
Thanks SLATZ, breaking the stance is hard. I will start working on it tomorrow probably, along with better upper body movements and hand positions.
I will report back.
Later
GREG
post #158 of 165
Quote:
Originally Posted by V1man
Hi everyone, you are doing some great things with video! I just want to give a tip for using V1. You can record the OLN World Cup coverage on your PC with V1 by using your digital camera as a DV bridge to convert the analog signal to digital. Or you can buy a DV bridge if your camera doesn't perform that function.

The result is video that you can analyze with V1. Gary and Rusty can then do a detailed analysis with their professional versions of V1. Any frame can be studied in great detail.

Any V1 Home user can also put video in your V1 locker and give epic members your email and password to watch the video from your locker. This provides greater control of the video and makes it easy to share.

Hope this makes things easier for you. Keep up the good work.

Mike Seiler
v1sports.com
Thanks Mike, that's HUGE! Rusty, you got a digital video camera?
post #159 of 165
Thread Starter 
I have a few more clips to show, one of which is actually decent skiing (one is decent GS but that wasn't really relavent to what was discussed in this thread). I may be posting it soon. Should I do one clip or two?
Later
GREG
post #160 of 165
Quote:
Originally Posted by HeluvaSkier
I have a few more clips to show, one of which is actually decent skiing (one is decent GS but that wasn't really relavent to what was discussed in this thread). I may be posting it soon. Should I do one clip or two?
Later
GREG
More the merrier
post #161 of 165
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Originally Posted by Gary Dranow
Thanks Mike, that's HUGE! Rusty, you got a digital video camera?
Yes Gary, of course I have a digital video camera. I also have an analog one and a digitizing card in a PC. What I don't have is the time to record coverage off OLN and then re-record (i.e. digitize it/capture it on PC) it, then edit it for posting and then post it. That's why I buy DVDs of race footage and keep it for myself.
post #162 of 165
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Originally Posted by therusty
Yes Gary, of course I have a digital video camera. I also have an analog one and a digitizing card in a PC. What I don't have is the time to record coverage off OLN and then re-record (i.e. digitize it/capture it on PC) it, then edit it for posting and then post it. That's why I buy DVDs of race footage and keep it for myself.
Now, now, no need to get nasty
post #163 of 165
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Originally Posted by Gary Dranow
Now, now, no need to get nasty
Ok, ok - I'll be glad to give you where I get mine from. The last 2 I bought online from CSIA. I have not even had time to look at them yet. And now it's bedtime for Bonzo.
post #164 of 165

How to negotiate 101 ;-)

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Originally Posted by therusty
Ok, ok - I'll be glad to give you where I get mine from. The last 2 I bought online from CSIA. I have not even had time to look at them yet. And now it's bedtime for Bonzo.
No dude, when you have time I'll need you to walk me through how to do all that digitizing crap myself. I've got DVR, I've captured all the races to date. When you've got time (no rush, man, really) PM me on how to get that to my PC. I'll get the bridge thingy and pull ths stuff into V1Pro. Then I'll share with all my brothers, deal?
post #165 of 165
Sorry I did not get a chance to check back sooner. If you still need to know how to record from a TV or VCR, just follow the directions that come with your video camera. It usually is only one setting; AV-DV out. Connect the source to the camera and use your normal firewire connection to the PC. It is a great way to capture any of the latest skiing programming. Good luck!
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