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Phil's Metons

post #1 of 15
Thread Starter 
I skied Phil's M11 Metrons today. Phil pointed out that they were light in the tip and tail, compared to the even weight of my AC4's. They were quick from edge to edge and felt good coming around on edge. They were a little nervous at the high speeds I'm known to travel at. I will say I was amazed to find out they were 172cm, they were so quick/easy to turn they felt much shorter, they have a 12m radius. My AC4's are a 16.1m radius and my AX3's are 17m.

I'm sure we'll hear from Phil soon. He is fun to ski with.
post #2 of 15
Sure don't invite me.

I see how it is.

BTW my AC3s are a 16.5 radius.

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post #3 of 15
While he was skiing my Metrons, I was trying his AC4's. Nice ski, I noticed the difference in radius in just 2 turns. The AC4 is a very nice and stable ski. I am still surprised how nimble a 82mm waste ski can be. As far as the metrons being nervous at speeds, you just have to turn more..and turn more...and turn more

Also..This is the first time in years that I skied with Max and I didn't get hurt!!!
post #4 of 15
Thread Starter 
Let's not temp fate. The snow was pretty good on Sunday.
post #5 of 15

M11s

Gentlemen;

I have heard from (at least) 2 different people that the M11 is "terrible" on boiler plate. Coincidentally, they both said it may have been caused by a bad tune.

What are your thoughts, please?

Doug
post #6 of 15
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Originally Posted by Atomic_918
Gentlemen;

I have heard from (at least) 2 different people that the M11 is "terrible" on boiler plate. Coincidentally, they both said it may have been caused by a bad tune.

What are your thoughts, please?

Doug
Depends on what type of "boilerplate" you are talking about. Glair ice? No, nothing will hold on that. IMHO, the M11 is up there with the best skis I have had on "boiler plate", because (if anything) Atomic makes some of the best edges. My only shord comong of the ski is in "death cookies", that is where the lightness of the tips get thrown around.
post #7 of 15

Metrons

Phil, could you answer for me,please? My main ski all Mt. ski are B5's 162 last years. I am going to canada soon to specifically get in some powder and try to get better and confidant. I was just going to rely on the B5's. I have liked them just messing around in crud and trees etc. but wanted to really improve and become a powder skier. What do you think. If I should try something else what do you recommend maybe I can demo. I'm 5'11 and 193, old time racer, strong skier. Than ks
post #8 of 15
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Originally Posted by Pete No. Idaho
Phil, could you answer for me,please? My main ski all Mt. ski are B5's 162 last years. I am going to canada soon to specifically get in some powder and try to get better and confidant. I was just going to rely on the B5's. I have liked them just messing around in crud and trees etc. but wanted to really improve and become a powder skier. What do you think. If I should try something else what do you recommend maybe I can demo. I'm 5'11 and 193, old time racer, strong skier. Than ks
Pete,
I would be suggest a fatter ski than the B5/M11, something at least 85 under foot. Maybe a M:ex or an Elan 777. But if you are getting a specific powder ski, look at a ski 95+ underfoot.
post #9 of 15

mETRONS

Phil, thanks for answer, what do you recommend on length for a powder ski like you recommended. I am about to drive to Red Mt. in Canada and do some pow practice. I'll ski on the B5 the lst day and then demo rent some others so give me your best comments on length. Thanks a lot-Pete
post #10 of 15
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Originally Posted by Pete No. Idaho
Phil, thanks for answer, what do you recommend on length for a powder ski like you recommended. I am about to drive to Red Mt. in Canada and do some pow practice. I'll ski on the B5 the lst day and then demo rent some others so give me your best comments on length. Thanks a lot-Pete
180-185. Or whatever you can get a great deal on. Demo some different lengths.
post #11 of 15
Thread Starter 
I'm no Phil, but I would suggest you look at Ski or Skiing Magazines Sept and Oct issues, try on-line, and pick out some of the fat skis to try. You may want to call ahead to reserve them.

IMO you should stay in the 177cm to 184cm in the big skis. Remember they like to make big radius turns.
post #12 of 15

Metrons

Thanks folks-great site Epic rocks.
post #13 of 15
Pete, try the Nordica Nitrous for a narrower powder ski. The Elan 999 is really nice, as is the Dynaster 8800.
post #14 of 15
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Originally Posted by Max Capacity
I'm no Phil, .
That's good, because only one of us can be me..and since I have "dibs", you are SOL
post #15 of 15
Thread Starter 
I'm sure someone dropped the mold after you were made, one are turely one of a kind. Not that that is a bad thing.

Glad your one of us.

Max
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