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Jackson Hole or Winter Park (Mary Jane)

post #1 of 22
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So i'm planning my spring break trip (March 11-19) and i'm stuck between Jackson hole or mary jane. On one hand, jackson hole is a great mountain.. i've skied it once before and it's the last year for the tram (but this could mean bigger crowds). On the other hand, i'm an aspiring mogul skier and i've heard great things about mary jane at winter park. both trips will end up costing around $1000 with lift tickets for 6 days so i'm left with the decision of which place.

about me... i've been told that i'm a level 8 skier... aggressive and willing to push my limits.

any suggestions? thx.
post #2 of 22
Are those the only two places you can go? Both are excellent mountains. You won't go wrong with either one. The crowds won't be too bad at JH.
post #3 of 22
Come on Glen, you have been to JH several times. Remember back in circa 88' when you were drinking at the bar in the Sojourner Inn in Teton Village, someone was harrassing, so you said, and you smacked the side of his head with one of those big glass ashtrays. You spent the night in the the Teton County Jail. You are/were the man..... lol
post #4 of 22
If you can go either place, it's got to be JH, hands-down.
post #5 of 22
i wouldn't be worried about excessive crowds at jackson because of the tram closing down. i been up there half a dozen times or so this winter and havent noticed above usual crowds compared to years past. i'd say head up to JH.
post #6 of 22
i'd choose Jackson Hole
post #7 of 22
If it were me, I'd go to JH because I've not been before. But if I recall correctly this is the fellow who'se posted a bunch about being an aspiring bump expert. Doubt you'll find longer, more varied bump runs than MJ and they tend to be skied by very good skiers, so they produce really nice, consistent bumps. Also, he can hook up with some of the awesome local bumpers which will no doubt improve his own bump skiing. If he wants to explore the steeps and off piste, JH; if he wants to dial in his bump skiing, MJ...IMO of course.
post #8 of 22
I love JH, but going there in March will not maximize your enjoyment there. With its famous SE exposure, you are sure to encounter spring conditions as soon as the sun comes out. WP will have much better preservation of snow that time year. Now JH in January, that's another story.

Powdr
post #9 of 22
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Originally Posted by Mom
If it were me, I'd go to JH because I've not been before. But if I recall correctly this is the fellow who'se posted a bunch about being an aspiring bump expert. Doubt you'll find longer, more varied bump runs than MJ and they tend to be skied by very good skiers, so they produce really nice, consistent bumps. Also, he can hook up with some of the awesome local bumpers which will no doubt improve his own bump skiing. If he wants to explore the steeps and off piste, JH; if he wants to dial in his bump skiing, MJ...IMO of course.
i guess that's what i gotta figure out. i'm still nursing a shin torsion injury from a jump that i took too fast. i might be better off using this break as a technical training and letting the injury heal (vs. jackson hole where i'm likely to try and do some smaller drops).

does anyone know what type of crowds mary jane usually gets in the spring?
post #10 of 22
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Originally Posted by Powdr
I love JH, but going there in March will not maximize your enjoyment there. With its famous SE exposure, you are sure to encounter spring conditions as soon as the sun comes out. WP will have much better preservation of snow that time year. Now JH in January, that's another story.

Powdr
i was out there last spring break (also march) and we had sunny blue skies everyday. but this also meant that the snow was growing a bit thin and that several of the runs (notably, corbet's) were closed due to lack of snow. it also meant that hoback's was like ice skating. i'm guessing this wasn't anything out of the norm for spring?
post #11 of 22
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Originally Posted by GlenPlake
does anyone know what type of crowds mary jane usually gets in the spring?
As long as you're not there during Denver's Pubilc schools spring break, you should be fine. (and even then, it's not too bad) MJ has a brand new six pack chair, which they should have ironed the bugs out of by spring, to help more efficiently move people uphill. If the six pack has long lines, you can do laps on the pony express, ride the iron horse if it's open and the challenger chair almost never has a bad lift line. The longest lift lines form at the old double Timberline lift which accesses an intermediate bowl, some sweet intermediate trees and is the jump-off point for a hike-to cirque. (This cheery picture is not true of the Winter Park side which can sport some long lines during holiday seasons) BTW, this is MJ's "30th Birthday" and there are some parties and other events planned that you can check out on their website.

Again, if you pick JH, you will no doubt have an amazing time there too; so I don't mean to sound like MJ's chamber of commerce, but it's a great ski area that skis and feels like a home-town hill.

enjoy!
post #12 of 22
if you plan to spend your week skiing bumps ... follow the snow
post #13 of 22
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anyone else have some input for me? i'm still on the fence. thanks.
post #14 of 22
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Originally Posted by GlenPlake
anyone else have some input for me? i'm still on the fence. thanks.
If what you really want to do is ski moguls, then I think Mary Jane is a better choice.
post #15 of 22
If you want challenging terrain go to Jackson. I have not yet been there, but I have never heard anything bad about the mountain. There is so much terrain there, that if the snow is good you are bound to find some great bump runs. Also, it may be in your best interest to hook up with a PSIA instructor who can teach to ski bumps (not trying to stick in the fork and twist). It may be an experience that is highly beneficial to your on going quest to ski them. I am certain that many in the insruction forum could point you to a capable instructor who may have a background in freestyle bump skiing. I personally think it would do wonders for your stability/balance, control, line, and rythm in moguls.
Later
GREG
post #16 of 22
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Originally Posted by Bob Peters
If what you really want to do is ski moguls, then I think Mary Jane is a better choice.
I'd like to ski moguls but i'd also like to work on my "extreme" skills like smaller cliff drops, etc. My only reservation with jackson hole is that i was there last spring break and the hoback's was iced over every day because of the snow melting and freezing. Also, corbet's was closed the entire time, but i'm sure that is dependent on snowfall.
post #17 of 22
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Originally Posted by HeluvaSkier
If you want challenging terrain go to Jackson. I have not yet been there, but I have never heard anything bad about the mountain. There is so much terrain there, that if the snow is good you are bound to find some great bump runs. Also, it may be in your best interest to hook up with a PSIA instructor who can teach to ski bumps (not trying to stick in the fork and twist). It may be an experience that is highly beneficial to your on going quest to ski them. I am certain that many in the insruction forum could point you to a capable instructor who may have a background in freestyle bump skiing. I personally think it would do wonders for your stability/balance, control, line, and rythm in moguls.
Later
GREG
Jackson hole is a great mountain. I think the problem is going to be the time in which i'm out there. Apparently spring conditions aren't that great in jackson hole.

I might think about a lesson in moguls. Is there anyone out in winter park that people recommend? (and as a warning, if they mention me getting new skis, i'll probably just stab them with my pole)
post #18 of 22
If he's available, go with Todd Metz (in clinics, he usually leads the warmup run on outhouse)
post #19 of 22
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Originally Posted by lennyblake
If he's available, go with Todd Metz (in clinics, he usually leads the warmup run on outhouse)
will he be cool with my straight skis and not give me flak?
post #20 of 22
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Originally Posted by GlenPlake
will he be cool with my straight skis and not give me flak?
I doubt that he would give you flak about old skis.

My 2 cents: why would you want to book a translatic flight on the "Spirit of St. Louis" instead of a modern airplane?
post #21 of 22
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Originally Posted by lennyblake
I doubt that he would give you flak about old skis.

My 2 cents: why would you want to book a translatic flight on the "Spirit of St. Louis" instead of a modern airplane?
because it's more fun. also, i'll buy a pair of used crossfires 3 or 4 seasons from now. by that time, my kastles will be done and i can pick up a pair of 181 crossfires for a relatively cheap price.

also, skiing on a 167cm is somewhat hillarious... even 174cm is silly.
post #22 of 22
That time of year, go for Utah or Colorado resorts for more reliable snow.
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