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System bindings vs flat

post #1 of 5
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In Peter Keelty's reviews, the Head Monster 77 Chip with the system Super Railflex bindings does not get as high reviews as the 77 non-Chip flat. The Elan Magfire 12 with the Fusion system bindings does not get as high reviews as the Elan 666 flat.

Any thoughts on this?
post #2 of 5
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Originally Posted by oboe
In Peter Keelty's reviews, the Head Monster 77 Chip with the system Super Railflex bindings does not get as high reviews as the 77 non-Chip flat. The Elan Magfire 12 with the Fusion system bindings does not get as high reviews as the Elan 666 flat.

Any thoughts on this?
Simple, these are great skis that are not improved by the binding system. In the case of the chip Vs non-chip... well several of the best Head skis are non-chip while several other great head skis have the chip. (as I duck and run for cover).

Michael
post #3 of 5
I think it can't be distilled to being as simple as flat vs. system for all cases. In reality each ski choice has to be considered separately and it's performance with or without the system binding reviewed.

In the case of the Elan M666 there is a significant difference in the feel of the flat vs. Fusion versions. The Fusion system stiffens the mid-section of the ski and, in my opinion, sacrifices a smoother progressive flex (with nice pop) for a free flexing binding interface and some "technology" to give the marketing department something to work with.
post #4 of 5
I guess it is understandable given all the dead weight you have to carry around with the integrated systems.

But it shows that as much as marketeers try to tell us the integrated ski and binding combinations are "optimised", ski performance cannot be measured objectively, so it all comes down to personal perference in the end. And if your opinion is that the integrated binding system does not give the performance you want, then by all means go for the flat version of the ski.
post #5 of 5
While I think that much more of ski performance can be objectively measured than is currently done, it is certainly true that there are so many variables when marrying a skier to a ski that it is very difficult to predict how that skier will respond. Also, as adaptable beings, we tend to find ourselves adjusting rather than complaining.

I, personally, prefer the system bindings in most cases due to the way that they skis arc and also for ease of maintenance and adjustment (there's something to be said for being able to mount your skis in your living room!). But, feel can trump this. For example, I never liked the Volkl g3 in the Motion, but loved it in the flat version.
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