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Bode Racing Drunk...  

post #1 of 262
Thread Starter 
I say so what.

He IS an idiot for publicly endorsing it, though. He should have the smarts to realize the leagues of J-racer kids that look up to him and are inspired by his skiing, and the status that he carries.

He's the best thing that has happened to the US Ski Team in many years. Instead of recognizing it, the press with all their retarded sensationalist compulsions is going to beat him up for it.
post #2 of 262
Can you elaborate on this a bit? I've seen some press about Bode "chillin" on his bus, but do you mean racing drunk?

David Wells swears he was hammered when he pitched his perfect game so I guess anything is possible.

I just checked the SRM site and it appeared he admitted to it in a 60 Minutes interview.

Pretty sad. There is a difference between throwing a ball and screaming down an icy hill.

Sounds like he's that proverbial "accident waiting for a place to happen", the next Bill Johnson?
post #3 of 262
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post #4 of 262
Bode raced drunk.......IDIOT!
post #5 of 262
What a dumbass. He may be a decent skier, but when you have a head as stupid as that on your shoulders you are heading for trouble. It sounds like the fame and success has gone to his head and he has turned into a whingeing primadonna. I hope he gets a good wakeup call sometime soon.
post #6 of 262
Hung over or drunk?

Tomba used to have either wine or liquours in the starting gate before a race.
post #7 of 262
The guy is a great skier - too bad it appears he has become an assclown, too. I never cease to be amazed with how some folks self destruct...
post #8 of 262
Dock Ellis pitched a no-hitter tripping on acid.
post #9 of 262
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Originally Posted by jstraw
Dock Ellis pitched a no-hitter tripping on acid.
I find this very easy to believe. Acid can really allow some people to unleash the full measure of their native abilities (others lose the abilities they normally have).

I don't feel like I'm qualified to judge Bode, but I will say he surely was inviting heat when he mentioned this to a reporter. Whether he did so unthinkingly, or because he likes to play the rebel hero role is something even he might not know. I think I'll return to not paying attention to him, as I was before opening this thread.
post #10 of 262
Reading the article carefully, it doesnt say he raced drunk, just skied. In the quote where he talks about skiing a slalom and hitting gates, notice the (...)which I believe indicates the reporter edited the quote down. He could have been saying something much different. Either way he could have been talking about hitting the gates after a few beers with firends.

Looks like a pretty sad attempt to create sensational article by the reporter. Same could be true with the 60 minutes interview, love to see that one. Whats the srm site?
post #11 of 262
So that explains all the DNFs

For some reason the article isn't loading for me. What does it say? Does it say he was drunk as in over 0.08 BAC, and in an actual race? Or does it say he had a double before racing? or does it say he had wine with lunch before hitting the slopes with friends. Or does it say he was .32 BAC and doing a WC DH? There is a difference.:
post #12 of 262
heres the whole si story from the link:

NEW YORK (AP) -- Bode Miller knows he puts his life at risk when he skis drunk, but the outspoken Olympic favorite admits he may try the dangerous activity again.

"Talk about a hard challenge right there. ... If you ever tried to ski when you're wasted, it's not easy," Miller told 60 Minutes for a segment that will air Sunday. "Try and ski a slalom when ... you hit a gate less than every one second, so it's risky. You're putting your life at risk. ... It's like driving drunk, only there are no rules about it in ski racing."

Asked if the risk meant he would never ski drunk again, Miller replied "No, I'm not saying that."

In the interview, the 28-year-old Miller acknowledged that his partying has affected his performance in the past.

"There have been times when I've been in really tough shape at the top of the course," he said.

Miller, the defending World Cup overall champion and a two-time silver medalist at the Salt Lake City Olympics, was also blase about the possibility of winning gold in Turin.

"Whether somebody wants me to get five gold medals or whatever it is, I sort of feel like they are all other people's concerns and issues, not really mine. ... I don't really care what everybody else says," he said.

Miller has drawn attention -- and criticism -- for his outspokenness before. He has called drug rules in skiing that he deems too strict "a joke" and was fined last month for refusing to take a boot test after a World Cup slalom race.

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post #13 of 262
Sensational reporting .
He's just saying he has tried skiing drunk, and is honest enough not to say he would never do it again.I must admit that he's a better skier than spokesman. I guess it's only fair.


Too bad I'm such a good spokesman or I could admit to doing a few things drunk that I shouldn't even do sober, like getting wired for sound and racing a streetbike on off-road trials with some buds, or there was that time in that bar...never mind.
post #14 of 262
He certainly sounds like a bit of a tit..... he has clearly missed the memo outlining the difference between an annoying rebel and a lovable rogue!
post #15 of 262

tough.

"Talk about a hard challenge right there. ... If you ever tried to ski when you're wasted, it's not easy," Miller told 60 Minutes for a segment that will air Sunday. Never have I had fun skiing after a beer or two so I can't imagine skiing drunk at all. Why would anyone do it? I once ran a 10K footrace after a night of drinking. I was still drunk when I started the race, but quite sober when I finished it. Dead last nearing the finish with two girls ahead of me, I had to sprint to make sure I didn't look like a loser.
post #16 of 262
Okay, I'll admit to skiing drunk. Late season in Austria, it's quite customary to drink plenty of schnapps in the sundown at the last hut on the slopes (on the way down) and then ski the very last leg reasonably hammered. Interesting stuff. Luckily the slopes are empty by then (bar people who have been hitting the uhm...bar).

Racing drunk is something else. I know that ski racers in the past would have a little tipple just prior to start to stop the jitters, heat up the body and get the juices flowing...but they were in control and not drunk.

But you are right in protesting the way Bode is making adverse comments about the sport (again). He does seem like a bit of a dim jock....love his skiing though
post #17 of 262
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Originally Posted by Ghost
Sensational reporting .
He's just saying he has tried skiing drunk, and is honest enough not to say he would never do it again.I must admit that he's a better skier than spokesman. I guess it's only fair.
Agreed. I hate when news reporters try to make news rather than just report accurate facts. It's all about getting ratings to attract advertising $$.
post #18 of 262
When I was young we use to do stupid things on skis like try to drink a pitcher of beer two handed while doing a mogul run. I use to drink and ski way to much.

When I was young it wasn't Pierre eh, It was That Little Badass Pierre that is Endangering Everybody's Life.

Just try going down hill in a hospital bed that's on skis while sipping a brew. Or, with 20 other people on a huge truck tire innertube with tons of beer. We all ended up in the sewage lagoon on that one. It ain't easy to arrive at the bottom intact. Just fall on a full can of beer one time.

Ok, so I was dumb and its a dumb idea to do anything like that and I am now in a position to look down the end of my senile nose at kids who do the same.

Bode should know that with the title comes a fiduciary responsibility to the base. The base will tend to fry anyone in this bestowed position for not realizing that.
post #19 of 262
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Originally Posted by ATskier
I had to sprint to make sure I didn't look like a loser.
uh---too late:
post #20 of 262

Tomba

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Originally Posted by Phil Pugliese

Tomba used to have either wine or liquours in the starting gate before a race.
This is interesting. Alcohol: a stimulant or depressant? There is a reason why he did this.
post #21 of 262
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Originally Posted by ATskier
"Talk about a hard challenge right there. ... If you ever tried to ski when you're wasted, it's not easy," Miller told 60 Minutes for a segment that will air Sunday. Never have I had fun skiing after a beer or two so I can't imagine skiing drunk at all. Why would anyone do it? I once ran a 10K footrace after a night of drinking. I was still drunk when I started the race, but quite sober when I finished it. Dead last nearing the finish with two girls ahead of me, I had to sprint to make sure I didn't look like a loser.
Beaten by girls? Oh, the horror.
post #22 of 262
Remember- the reporter isnt the role model (whether he likes it or not, it comes with the territory of being an internationally acclaimed-with good reason0 skier) who is getting drunk the night before world championship races. You owe it to your sponsors, your fans, and your family to go out there giving your best. Thats why you get paid. I am all for going out and getting as trashed as possible then waking up for first tracks, but no 7 year old is going to read about me in Sports Illustrated and think its OK. Dont be blinded by the reporting- shoddy or not, Bode should have realized what his actions AND his words mean to so many others. He cant get the "young and immature" tag either- hes 28 years old and in a few years his ski racing will be pretty much over.
post #23 of 262
He speaks his mind and is a great skier.
I'm OK with that.

Hey, 'a Porsche buddy' of mine says that the best run he EVER had @ Sebring was after a glass of fine Italian wine.
post #24 of 262
If any of you guys read his book you would know, he hates attention from the media more then anything. He speaks his mind, and if the reported want to be jackasses to him, he responds the same way. He may be a role model, but in his mind he does not care, nor does he want to be one. The more people egg him on the dumber things he will say because he knows it will cause controversy.
post #25 of 262

'Believe none of what you read, and half of what you see.'

(benjamin franklin -edit)

If you arrange this logically, as such...

This statement - denying a negation.
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Asked if the risk meant he would never ski drunk again, Miller replied "No, I'm not saying that."
Does NOT imply this conclusion...
Quote:
...but the outspoken Olympic favorite admits he may try the dangerous activity again.
And aren't we all smart enough to realize that THIS is his point here?
Quote:
"It's like driving drunk, only there are no rules about it in ski racing."
I am new to this sport and a newcomer to the ski racing press, but I believe we all need to realize that he is an athlete - not a politician - and that the press is making stories up in preparation for the Olympics.

From what little I have read, I like him. He appears uninterested in explaining himself to those that aren't going to follow along.

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post #26 of 262
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Originally Posted by Pierre
When I was young we use to do stupid things on skis like try to drink a pitcher of beer two handed while doing a mogul run. I use to drink and ski way to much.
I used to live skiing/drinking in Ohio. I think its a function of terrain that makes this more than acceptable. On any given night, this great tradition lives on. Still, I really appreciate the skill that goes into 2-fisted pitcher drinking in a mogul field. It speaks volumes for the inate talent capable of such a feat. Perhaps the same is true of Bode; he becomes merely mortal with a few drinks tossed back.
post #27 of 262
The folks at Bretton Woods must be cringeiing at the notoriety of their new Director of Skiing
post #28 of 262
It sounds like he's started to hang around with a new crowd or something. Usually people don't talk about the dumb things they've done until after their career is over.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...ap/index.html/
post #29 of 262
I went to the CBS News story instead of the SI story. I believe we will see it a bit more in context after we see it on 60 minutes.

The way I understood it: Bode celebrated after a win and then had to race the next day. He explained that it was hard to race in those conditions. When asked if he would ski drunk again, he said "I'm not saying that"

The context of that could mean.....
Hey idiot reporter, I never said I'd deliberately chose to race drunk(hungover)
OR....
There are no rules in place to keep me from drinking, so I may be careless again.
post #30 of 262
Ski culture and drinking wil forever be linked- whether it be hitting the apres scene until dawn and heading back out the next morning or the lineup of college racers who don't remember the night before. It should hardly come as a shock that most people who are immersed in the culture have done the two at the same time.
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