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post #211 of 231
Thanks for the description, Bob. Some of your words put me right in the moment and the place.

And still, I wouldn't like the vibe as much as the feelings that predominate the scene here.

Do you truly believe that it's not ruined? You personally. No regrets that it's become some kind of measuring stick for skiers with something to prove to themselves (instead of learning to ski first). Wouldn't you prefer a quiet, calm, mountain-top vibe? Not that our preference is going to change how it is. 

Maybe the kiss of death for any line is that it gets a name bestowed upon it. It would be different as:, that line next to the big rock....
 
Cheap entertainment, and I know that's a metaphoric description, is not the vibe I want on top of a cliff area. I would flee the scene at warp speed (on a different line)
post #212 of 231
 It's a shame that instructor no longer works at JHMR because he got busted doing it when it was closed.  A fishing buddy described as...  When you know a fish is always there, hitting the same pattern, it's hardly a sporting catch, but that fish will get caught over and over".  The word I heard today is that Corbets is open and skiing well.
post #213 of 231
You are referring to not hitting the same line over and over, for all the good reasons there are for spreading things around?
post #214 of 231
 I'm referring to the fact that if you insist on skiing the same run all the time, several times a day, even when it's closed, and talking about it, that the patrol will eventually bust you for it and they won't have to try very hard to catch you.  You will lose your pass, or your job and your pass if you are an employee.  It will be hard to break that record with the East Ridge chair down for the duration.

BTW...  Corbets' is closed again.  A series of rocks have surfaced in the goat path and most skiers would have a hard time getting past them with out wrecking.
post #215 of 231
sounds like an irrational fish, for sure.

What part of Corbet's is the goat path, the traverse entry line? not familiar with the term exactly.
post #216 of 231
Just been through this whole thread and been enjoying all the stories, tips and thoughts from everyone. Great stories, Bob! Inspirational to hear how some of the ladies have conquered this over the men

I'm heading to Jackson on Friday for the first time and look forward to checking it out. Super pumped for Jackson skiing in general! Any updates on what is skiing well there at the moment?

Some of the discussions of runs in Whistler brought back memories of my season there, including my mate straight-lining Excitation on a powder day. For the record West Cirque is one of my favourite runs.
post #217 of 231

Bob (and anyone else who has conquered Corbet's):

Im lucky enough to be skiing jackson this january, and ever since i first heard about corbet's, its all i think about. im desperate to ski it, but have a few questions:

-When does it generally open for the season (on average)? I'll be there around about jan 17-24, and from reading through this thread, it seems it often doesnt open until early feb

-Everyone writes about how the toughest part is the initial drop, and the psychological aspect of throwing yourself in there. Once you've conquered it, and you know that youve got it in you, does the couloir become less intimidating? do those nerves turn to confidence and excitement the next time around?(provided you dont crash and seriously damage your confidence, ego, limbs, etc.)

-Is it possible to have too much snow for corbets? ive read that more snow=less drop, better landings etc. but in some photos that are described as big years for snow, the drop looks bigger than any other time!

Some tips would really be appreciated, i would consider myself (and the people im going with) expert skiiers here in Aus,(we've also skiied niseko, japan) but we just dont have this kind of terrain over here! are there other spots on the mountain which would be especially good for practising the drop itself?

post #218 of 231

I was at JH for a week and it snowed almost every day. Corbets changed daily it seemed. I've seen pictures and it looked nothing like it did when I was there. I'm obviously no expert. If it's softer snow I say just jump in the middle or skiers right. The left side you can kind of squirt in. After the initial drop the rest of the run is pie. But when you first look down Corbet's you get dizzy and weak at the knees etc..

Amazing to drop it!

post #219 of 231

First sign of winter is the resurrection of the Corbet's thread.

post #220 of 231
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by tomdf View Post

Bob (and anyone else who has conquered Corbet's):

Im lucky enough to be skiing jackson this january, and ever since i first heard about corbet's, its all i think about. im desperate to ski it, but have a few questions:

-When does it generally open for the season (on average)? I'll be there around about jan 17-24, and from reading through this thread, it seems it often doesnt open until early feb

-Everyone writes about how the toughest part is the initial drop, and the psychological aspect of throwing yourself in there. Once you've conquered it, and you know that youve got it in you, does the couloir become less intimidating? do those nerves turn to confidence and excitement the next time around?(provided you dont crash and seriously damage your confidence, ego, limbs, etc.)

-Is it possible to have too much snow for corbets? ive read that more snow=less drop, better landings etc. but in some photos that are described as big years for snow, the drop looks bigger than any other time!

Some tips would really be appreciated, i would consider myself (and the people im going with) expert skiiers here in Aus,(we've also skiied niseko, japan) but we just dont have this kind of terrain over here! are there other spots on the mountain which would be especially good for practising the drop itself?


Hi, tomdf, and welcome to Epic. 

 

The opening always depends on snowfall - how much it snows and how the wind affects the snow all play a part in when they open it.  There are a couple of HUGE rocks a few dozen meters down from the landing zone and the ski patrol doesn't open the couloir until those rocks are well covered with snow.  If it were possible to guess at an "average" opening, I would say usually by early January but that's no guarantee, of course.

 

The best tip is to get there first on a big powder morning - but that's almost impossible to arrange.  The softer the snow, the easier the jump, regardless of how high the jump is.  The next best tip is to TRY to stay on the middle of your skis as you land the jump - being either way too far forward or way too far back will cause problems.  (My also-biggest tip would be to NOT try it if it hasn't snowed in days and the landing is rock hard, but that advice doesn't mean a thing to lots and lots of people.)

 

As to it getting mentally easier, I think there's no doubt that it does become SOMEWHAT less intimidating with frequency.  You certainly build confidence as you do it more than once.  That said, it's still a very scary-looking drop when you're standing at the lip - at least for me.  I've done it a lot of times over the years and it still doubles my heartrate instantly when I go there with the intention of dropping in.  Some people, of course, don't give it a second thought. 

 

I should mention that you really don't need to be an "expert" skier to do Corbet's.  Gravity works just as well for hackers as it does for heroes.  Once you've landed and made the usually-mandatory left turn at the wall, the rest of the couloir is no steeper or more difficult than lots of other runs at JH.

 

As far as places to practice, conventional wisdom says that the little chutelet called "Meet Your Maker" right at the entrance to the Cirque Traverse is a good place to get a feel for Corbet's.  I think that's a little misleading because your skis never leave the snow in MYM.  It is, however, pretty steep and VERY narrow and you're going fast when you come out, so it's probably not bad as a warmup.  Better than nothing, anyway.

 

It snowed a bunch up high here last night.  Maybe we'll have tons of snow when you get here.

post #221 of 231

thanks for that, snowfalls in mid-september probably dont mean too much but its a great sign none the less!

post #222 of 231

I don't know, never been there, but from what I hear the only exceptional bit of Corbet's is the mandatory jump into it, especially on hard snow.  I've occasionally had difficulty landing jumps on hard snow.  On those occasions, when landing I've had difficulty keeping my skis under control, with the result that I had the skis go out to one side when the pressure came hammering down; I just didn't have enough secondary muscular strength to stabilize the legs.  It was a better option than splaying them apart.  I would practice jumps.  They have plenty of jumps in the park, but be warned.  If you are tentatively skiing beside them because you haven't been on them and want to check them out first and then decide "this one looks good", they sometimes have two set up in a row so that you take off from one and land on the down side of the other ___/\___/\___.  Cutting into the second one leaves you landing on the flat. 

 

PS. You can also get about 75 feet of air and land on an icy flat if you cut into a pipe while cruising on your SGs.

post #223 of 231

and its open...looking pretty burly

http://www.jacksonhole.com/mountain-info/photo-of-the-day.html

 

I can't wait to see this when I am there first week of feb.  I really want to do it but I won't know how I feel until I see it in real life.

post #224 of 231

Every time I've been there, it's seemed bigger than I would've imagined.  Good for you if you can do it -- I've reconciled myself to this not being on the bucket list.

 

Mike

post #225 of 231

Looked down corbet's and s&s yesterday on a hike, corbets is a crazy run, definitely intense, S&S is just stupid. Buddy of mine dropped Corbet's two years ago, said it was intense, but manageable. Planning on going to Jackson with him this year, if conditions are good, I'll consider it. Definitely puckered standing on top without any snow.

post #226 of 231
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Originally Posted by snowyphil65 View Post

Looked down corbet's and s&s yesterday on a hike, corbets is a crazy run, definitely intense, S&S is just stupid. Buddy of mine dropped Corbet's two years ago, said it was intense, but manageable. Planning on going to Jackson with him this year, if conditions are good, I'll consider it. Definitely puckered standing on top without any snow.

 

Corbet's with no snow would freak me out. Once I'm on skis and there's snow, steep slopes feel a lot more manageable.

post #227 of 231

Anyone ever nonono2.gifdrop it on a mountain bike?  There are all kinds of things I'd drop or descend on skis that I wouldn't consider on a bike. 

post #228 of 231

Bumping this thread. Hey Bob got anymore Corbet's stories. This thread is amazing and what a great read. Under what snow conditions do they open it up. I see you guys are getting a ton of snow up top.

post #229 of 231
Thread Starter 

Hi, Huckster.

 

Thanks for the bump.  I can't believe this thread has had 35,000 views.  Wow.

 

I can't think of any new stories.  I'll give it some thought.  Or maybe someone else can chime in with some stories that are a little more current than my stale old stuff.

 

As for this year, Corbet's is not open - YET - because several of the big rocks were still showing as of today.  With the amount of snow we have in the forecast and how windy it's going to be, I honestly wouldn't be surprised to see it open later this week.

 

Considering that it's been snowing and blowing hard since this afternoon, I'm sure we've now passed 150" of total snowfall for the season and we're now over 60" of base at the bottom of Rendezvous Bowl.  I have to remind myself every day that it's only the middle of December (DEEP-cember).  If this keeps up, we may need to have food and alcohol airlifted in to keep everybody properly fed and watered so they can keep skiing.  biggrin.gif

post #230 of 231

Did anyone see the TGR extra on their recent film?   With all the pro skiers dropping into Corbets?  That was the best part of the film, hands down.

 

I looked on Youtube but its not on there yet.

post #231 of 231
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Originally Posted by Markoncarp View Post

Did anyone see the TGR extra on their recent film?   With all the pro skiers dropping into Corbets?  That was the best part of the film, hands down.

 

I looked on Youtube but its not on there yet.

The behind the scenes looks sweet!!! The skiing doesnt start until 3:30

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QRvBARVAzw

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