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post #31 of 104
Mantras are the same construction and shape next year, just new graphics.
post #32 of 104
I saw the Muti-X yesterday. That is one fugly ski. It has arm thingies on the side. They are like the pulsers on the Atomics, but they are external and removable. You can change from long arms to short arms to make the ski flex more. It comes with a little bag of them. It looks like you are skiing on a railroad bridge.
post #33 of 104
Hmmm... that 86mm Afterburner/Jet Fuel may be just the ticket to augment the B5s...
post #34 of 104
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Originally Posted by ssh
Hmmm... that 86mm Afterburner/Jet Fuel may be just the ticket to augment the B5s...
such frittery of mental holiday-making will dissolve after you ski the iM 88.
post #35 of 104
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hmm..

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Originally Posted by ssh
Hmmm... that 86mm Afterburner/Jet Fuel may be just the ticket to augment the B5s...
Steve you are reading my mind.

Can't wait to get the details...
post #36 of 104
Quote:
Originally Posted by ssh
Hmmm... that 86mm Afterburner/Jet Fuel may be just the ticket to augment the B5s...
There's your super fat!
post #37 of 104
Quote:
Originally Posted by ssh
Hmmm... that 86mm Afterburner/Jet Fuel may be just the ticket to augment the B5s...
There goes that whole "1 ski quiver" idea - I knew it couldn't last for long...
post #38 of 104
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Originally Posted by trekchick
There's your super fat!
86 has been considered midfat for at least the last 2 or 3 years I believe...
post #39 of 104
It seems like the trend is toward wider skis if I correctly understand what I've been reading. Interesting, since so few people ski much if ever, off the groomed.

If nothing else, it will allow the industry to move back toward less rotund shapes in the future which will offer "better" performance in the groomed world that most inhabit. What may be happening is that the various categories have more or less settled out as well as the technology. This leaves the ski makers with mostly graphics and some tweaking of sidecut to sell new products, until the next leap forward.

Be that as it may, I'm one of those that helps the industry to continue selling "the latest and the greatest". I'm trying to curb my habit but with admittedly somewhat limited success.
post #40 of 104
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Originally Posted by Lostboy
If nothing else, it will allow the industry to move back toward less rotund shapes in the future which will offer "better" performance in the groomed world that most inhabit. What may be happening is that the various categories have more or less settled out as well as the technology. This leaves the ski makers with mostly graphics and some tweaking of sidecut to sell new products, until the next leap forward.
I wouldn't quite say that- the "cross" ski that was big 2 years ago (Atomic SX, Salomon Crossmax/Streetracer, Dynastar Cross) still sell in big numbers.
post #41 of 104
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Originally Posted by Lostboy
It seems like the trend is toward wider skis if I correctly understand what I've been reading. Interesting, since so few people ski much if ever, off the groomed.
Couple reasons the modern wide ski is popular now:

1) They may rarely leave the groomed, but wider skis are more stable and less trippy.

2) The big trend this year is wide skis with a huge taper (progressive sidecut, pintail, etc) - look at the K2 Recon and Volkl AC4. The tips are way bigger than the tails, which makes the tail release easily. The vast majority of the skiing public skids their way around the mountain and this profile makes for a very easy to skid ski.

I think a lot of people bought something like a Volkl 6 star and found them way too much work and never developed the skills necessary to carve them. Something like a K2 Recon feels like it skis itself in comparison.

3) Manufacturers have been able to build wider skis that don't suck on groomers. Recon, AC4, and even skis as big as the Mantra are great on western groomers. I've never skied in the East so I'm not going to make any claims about them working there.
post #42 of 104
Thread Starter 

Nordica Hot Rod new lineup additions

Hot Rod Jet Fuel (w/ Metal)

126-84-112

Available Lenghts: 170(r16.7), 178(r18.4), 186(r20.1)

XBS Alu Piston Control, 3-12 or 5-14 din


Hot Rod Afterburner(no metal)

126-84-112

All basic specs the same but binding 3-11 din, w/out piston

Sweet!
post #43 of 104
thanks gotama those look awesome
post #44 of 104
any pics of the jet fuel? when will it come availabe to the public?
post #45 of 104
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Jet Fuels

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Originally Posted by skierecs7
any pics of the jet fuel? when will it come availabe to the public?
Hopefully right after the ski show in Vegas. As soon as I find out I'll
let you know.

I got a glimpse of the 07 catalogue, but couldn't get one to take home.

Colors mirror the Top Fuel / Nitrous layout:

Jet Fuel Mostly Red

Afterburner Mostly Orange
post #46 of 104
Thanks gotama i really appreciate it. Isn't it amazing how our new 2006 gear is already getting old!!
post #47 of 104
Thread Starter 

New Nordica Boot

I forgot to mentioned that Nordica has a new boot to compliment the Hot Rod Top Fuel boot.

Its called the Hot Rod Nitrious and the flex index is 90 vs 115 on the HR Top Fuel Boot.
It also looks more orange than the Top Fuel boot's tranlucent red.
post #48 of 104
Woo Hoo! Got some iM82's on the way (172 only, still waiting to order the 182's). I will post after I get some turns!
post #49 of 104
Will the 82 be paired with a SR2 binding or other?
post #50 of 104
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lostboy
It seems like the trend is toward wider skis if I correctly understand what I've been reading. Interesting, since so few people ski much if ever, off the groomed.

If nothing else, it will allow the industry to move back toward less rotund shapes in the future which will offer "better" performance in the groomed world that most inhabit. What may be happening is that the various categories have more or less settled out as well as the technology. This leaves the ski makers with mostly graphics and some tweaking of sidecut to sell new products, until the next leap forward.

Be that as it may, I'm one of those that helps the industry to continue selling "the latest and the greatest". I'm trying to curb my habit but with admittedly somewhat limited success.
the iM88 changes the landscape. it is as strong on the groomed terrain as the '03 WC SC skis that I had. slightly slower edge-to-edge, but the difference is tiny enough that it seems like it would matter only to a gate-basher.

it was very hard for me to consider this ski as my only ski. the waist sounded impossibly wide for anything but ungroomed.

until I skied it.

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post #51 of 104
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Originally Posted by Finndog
Will the 82 be paired with a SR2 binding or other?
I have no confirmed info, but I'd put 95% odds that it will be served up flat just like the 88. Suggested binding would probably be the Mojo 15 (or whatever next year's variant is), but of course you can put anything your heart desires on.
post #52 of 104
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Originally Posted by Finndog
Will the 82 be paired with a SR2 binding or other?
I will be mounting it with a Railflex, as it needs an adjustable binding (shop demo use).
post #53 of 104
Forgot to mention: the RS119 (old i-GS with soft VIST plate) is back next year (the 102/63/88, 21m ski). THAT was a great ski! So, for all of you that complain "skis have too much shape/skis are too turny...." there you go! Probably the best freeskiing GS around.
post #54 of 104
post #55 of 104
Nicely done!

Are these all the models, or (for example) will there be others in the mix? I'm specifically interested in what happens with the M:11/B5 split next year now that there's an 11 B5 with different dimensions.
post #56 of 104
...those are all pretty narrow skis. Where are the wider all-mountain skis?
post #57 of 104
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Originally Posted by ssh
Nicely done!

Are these all the models, or (for example) will there be others in the mix? I'm specifically interested in what happens with the M:11/B5 split next year now that there's an 11 B5 with different dimensions.
This may be a case again where Atomic has decided to change where they are measuring the skis. Nothing like consistency...
post #58 of 104
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Originally Posted by ssh
...those are all pretty narrow skis. Where are the wider all-mountain skis?
It's Europe. Their idea of an all-mountain ski is a GS9! I guess it doesn't snow over there much....or they don't ski off-piste.
post #59 of 104
Thread Starter 

2007 Atomic M:EX??

Any indication that the M:EX will substantially change dimensions for '07?
post #60 of 104
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lostboy
It seems like the trend is toward wider skis if I correctly understand what I've been reading. Interesting, since so few people ski much if ever, off the groomed.
The PNW is a bad place to be if you're a groomer queen. Not sure what you typically ski, but the secret to wider skis is that they let you enjoy typical coastal conditions much more, even inbounds. It has very little to do with on or off the groomed, and the simple idea that "so few people ski much if ever, off the groomed" is pretty silly as well. We aren't in Deer Valley or Park City here...
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