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post #1 of 25
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Thanks to my countless hours reading what everyone had to say here I just bought these today. Theyll be ready and mounted for riding this saturday and I cant wait. I suppose what we all need is another 176 Mojo 90 review, but I suppose I could just post some feedback if it sounds like its wanted.

Im fairly average in all respects so it wont much help out the heavier or lighter folks here. For reference, Im 5"10 165#, and while this is only my second season skiing ever, Id say Im a level III or 7-8 thanks to my many days on the mountain this year and good instruction from friends and an instructor last year. I ski Copper, Winter Park, and the Jane, mostly the backside, bowls, trees, with an occasional fast groomer to warm up or finish off the day. I also enjoy a nice blue or blueblack bump run now and then. Some of my favorite runs are following that ridge of parsenn bowl to the right through the trees, backside parsen, any of the black runs in the Copper bowl and the black runs behind Sierra at Copper.

Also for reference the other skis that were in my final cut were;
177 Mantra
177 Kehua

Id say I went with the mojo because it just seemed the best compromise for all mountain and powder for what I like to do...and it was 100$ less than either of the other skis. I was very tempted with the matra because of its softness, but I thought it might be a bit more underfoot and out my pocket than I needed. With the kehua, I just didnt have enough info on it and was a bit weary cause its the first model year and again 100 more.

Thanks again to everyone for participating in this forum, it makes such a great resource for us all.

post #2 of 25
Sweet ski! You'll have to post a review once you've had a chance to get out on them.
post #3 of 25
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So not that everyone can’t scroll up to see, but here is me in a nutshell;

Head Mojo 90 @ 176 (124/89/117) i think with a 20m radius.

5'10, 165# level 7-8 and the first pair of skis I’ve ever bought. I’ve been demoing a ton of stuff this year thanks to my demo season pass. At 176 they are the longest ski I’ve ever been on and are absolutely without a doubt the perfect size for me and what I like. Some of the other skis I’ve been on are Rossi B2 and B3, Salomon Foil, Guns, and Scrambler Hots, K2 Apache Recon, Crossfire, and Public Enemy, and probably soon some Volkl supersports. I mainly ski copper and winterpark\jane on the occasional groomer but mainly enjoy the backside, trees, bumps, and anywhere theres powder and something ungroomed. Checkout my first post for some of my favorite types of trails.

Also my review might not be the most technical or precise since Ive only had these skis out one day, Im still largely learning new things about skiing everyday, and Ive only been in the sport for about a year now (20 days on the hill), so forgive me in advance.

Took them to Jane today with a couple runs in vasquez with no new snow in a couple days, but anyway here goes;

Absolutely amazing. These skis are definitely very turny and get on edge quick. I forgot I was skiing on something with a 90mm waist; it honestly felt like it was low 80's. If you got going really fast on the flats they got nudged around a bit but overall extremely stable. The little extra bit of stiffness and length really likes to be carved.

First let me state I am not a great bump skier since I just started skiing last year, but Im very comfortable on most runs. I just couldn’t believe how easy it was to go through the bumps with these skis. They’re just very happy to turn and again didn’t feel like they were so long and cumbersome to fit. To me it felt like I was on a 168. For me it was as easy to get through the bumps as on 165Foils or Guns. Fairly hooky I thought if you tried to do a zipper, which I only did a couple of times because I’m not that good yet.

I didn’t get a chance to do too many tree runs because of the annoying lines where I like to ski and having my girlfriend with me, but having already said these skis love to turn, initiate turns easily, and are 90mm at the waist, it handled everything amazing through the trees. I was lucky enough to find a little bit of fluffy snow, but it was mainly all chopped up. They handled the entire “no snow for a couple day conditions” in medium trafficked trees with ease. Nevertheless I don’t think floatation should be a problem, but Ill update this thread when I’m able to ski some real powder and let the skis run.

General Ski Impressions
As I mentioned I almost bought the Mantra since it was a little softer and supposedly more forgiving, but I am absolutely surprised at how forgiving this ski could be. Granted if I got in the backseat too far these skis let me know, but they had a very nice and somewhat roomy sweet spot. By far the most stable ski I’ve ridden, not surprising at all since it is the longest ski I’ve been on. Overall it was a lively fun, extremely versatile ski. For anyone looking to wanting a one ski quiver Id seriously suggest looking at this ski. General build quality feels bulletproof and top notch. I would imagine these skis could take a serious beating, but I didn’t do that today nor do I plan to.

If anyone cares; really cool. The two different colored skis look kickass. Enough said I suppose.

Markers seem to get a lot of crap from some people here and at other forums. I like my knees and legs so my din is a very happy 7. I ran them pretty fast straight over some small moguls as well as a full day of skiing everywhere and didn’t have problems with prereleases. Granted its only been about 5 hours worth of skiing on them, so I have no idea about long term. Again I can update.

I should be skiing next Friday and Saturday at Copper so hopefully it’ll snow and have some fresh stuff to turn through. So hopefully I didn’t screw up this review too bad. If anyone has some specific questions please feel free to ask them and Ill do my best to answer them honestly.
post #4 of 25

Demo at Winter Park?

Pechelman, thanks for the review!

I also ski Mary Jane. I love bumps, but also want something that floats in pow and can power through crud ... oh, and that can carve as well!

For those of us that ski the Jane and can't afford a huge quiver, I guess what we're looking for is a ski that's good in the bumps with as much width as we can get away with. The Mojo 90 seems like it might fit the bill. Your the second person I've heard this from.

Do you know of any shops in Winter Park that demo the Mojo 90? If not, did you demo/purchase your skis in the Front Range somewhere?


post #5 of 25
Thread Starter 
Originally Posted by Esquiador

Do you know of any shops in Winter Park that demo the Mojo 90? If not, did you demo/purchase your skis in the Front Range somewhere?


Unfortunately I dont know of anyplace that demos this ski. Maybe check Christies? I purchased it without demoing based off the reviews and what I knew I wanted as far as ski size, length, and characterstics. I bought it from CO Ski & Golf off of Wadsworth.
post #6 of 25
I used 186 Mojo's last Friday when catskiing near Park City. They did very well; pretty stable and easy to initiate turns.

I just wish I had been able to directly compare them to the 177 Mantras (wanted 184) I demo'd at PCMR earlier in the week. I loved the Mantras for all conditions at the resort - from day-old powder in Jupiter, groomers, and black bumps.
post #7 of 25
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I honestly think I would have been equally happy with the mantras, infact I kinda did like the size and flex of it more, but for 150$ more i couldnt even come close to justifying it. They both have nice wood cores and are real skis. I do have a feeling though that the mojo probably preforms better on both bumps and hardpack after skiing them this past weekend.

Im sure the Mantra is better in the pow but im totally sure 90mm underfoot in 177 will be plenty to float my butt through some pow since a pair of 166 Guns were able to do just that.
post #8 of 25
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So Ive got another 10 hours and many mroe verticle feet on these skis.

First day, nice 3-5" freshly dusted, fantastic on everything as usual, but the surprise came on day #2.

No new snow, hardpack pretty much everywhere, and I was skiing with a new skier, so we stayed mainly on groomed\packed stuff.

These were just an absolute pleasure to carve at high speed.

Oddly enough, I was also skiing with a friend who used to race throughout high school, and was obviously very good (much better than I am).
Anyway, I was easily able to keep up with him on his skis. Long, short, medium turns, through bumps, whatever we decided these skis just delivered. Granted he kicked my butt through the moguls, but what can one expect after racing for so many years and going through multiple bump camps in comparison to my 2 seasons of skiing.

Anyway, if I didnt know better, and had the top sheets taped over, I would probably think they were some 50/50 all-mountain skis on the frontside (think k2recon but better) and 90/10 skis on the backside\backcountry kinda stuff. If I had the money, Id buy another pair right now to make sure I have these skis for a very long time.
post #9 of 25
Pechelman, is the Mojo 90 a heavy ski? They demo the K2 Public Enemy at the Jane Shop. The PE is relatively heavy and I was curious how the Mojo compared.

Hey, what size boot do you wear? If I can't find the Mojo to demo in WP, I might have to borrow yours for a few runs.

I want to see for myself how a ski around 90 in the waist runs through the bumps. I need to see it (do it), to believe it. I'm a bit skeptical.
post #10 of 25
Thread Starter 
Originally Posted by Esquiador
Pechelman, is the Mojo 90 a heavy ski? They demo the K2 Public Enemy at the Jane Shop. The PE is relatively heavy and I was curious how the Mojo compared.

Hey, what size boot do you wear? If I can't find the Mojo to demo in WP, I might have to borrow yours for a few runs.

I want to see for myself how a ski around 90 in the waist runs through the bumps. I need to see it (do it), to believe it. I'm a bit skeptical.
Physically, if you pick it up, it is a heavier ski.
Ive never noticed the weight on my feet since the ski is so agile and willing to turn turn turn. Of course im not much of a park person, so I have no idea how they are in the air spinning or anything.
My sole is 316. If you have a similar size Id be willing to swap skis for a run or two. PM me if youre interested.
post #11 of 25

Great reviews so far. The Mojo 90 seems a great choice as an all mountain ski. However I'm wondering how it performs in real powder conditions, as i haven't read too many comments. I'm looking for a companion to my TF's for off-piste skiing but my powder experience is fairly limited and i'm looking for something that will ease the learning curve. I was thinking along the lines of the 1080 Foil or Gun, but i'm getting a sweet deal on a pair of Mojo's which is hard to ignore.

I'd love to hear any comments/opinions about the Mojo 90's as a pure off piste tool.

post #12 of 25
Thread Starter 
Well heres my thoughts.
If youre even considering a Foil or Gun, then get the Mojo instead.
The dimensions of the Mojo are nearly identical to a Gun, yet because its not a wimpy noodle, it handles so well on the hardpack as Ive mentioned.

Regarding the Foil. I love this ski too, but it just wasnt enough underfoot and the sidecut a bit much for what I wanted off-piste\pow. It wasnt bad by any means, just not what I was looking for exactly. I think this is my fav solly ski this year since it can actually hold an edge under my weight, loves to turn, good in moguls, and ok on the ungroomed. A bit noisy I thought though, but who cares about that really.

Now that said, me being 165 and 5'10 on 176 Mojo 90's Ill float roughly half a boot down into pow. Unortunately I havent had a chance yet for any great pow skiing as Im usually there the day after the smaller storms weve been having. If youve ever skied a Gun\PR in the pow, the Mojo will ski pretty much the same, which is to say, lots of fun, quick, agile, and responsive. I mentioned to someone else that if you were to combine the best attributes of the Gun and the K2 PE, you come close to a Mojo.
(since I dont ski park\pipe Im not commenting on that)

The 2 other skis I were considering for what I wanted were the
177 Kehua (92mm underfoot)
177 Mantra (94mm underfoot)

Id really like to hear comments about the kehua but as Im sure you know, people also love the mantras. I suspect its a better ski in the off piste category due to its slightly softer flex, wider shovel, and wider waist. However, I have a hard time beleiving any ski in this class (90-95mm) could be out the Mojo on hard pack and moguls....its also a blast in the trees I might add.

So now, having said all that.

Pow skis.
I think all of these skis Ive mentioned are RIGHT on the transition between a fat all mountain kinda ski and a powder ski, which is why I was shopping and bought in this category. If you want real pow performance though, step up and get something closer to or above 100mm underfoot.
ie Scratch BC, Seth V, Gotama etc.

But if you use the Mojo 100% off piste, you wont be dissapointed.
If I was going to use it exclusively in the backside, bigmountain, no trees, I would have gone a size up though for a bit more stability and larger turns. Its a very turny ski but not twitchy. Also if this is what you want it for only and can get a good deal on Head Mojos, maybe try to get a SuperMojo in 183 or 193?

gah I always do this...ramble
i stop now
post #13 of 25

Thanks for your feedback - I think the Mojo will be the best overall ski given the use I'll be making off it (80% off piste 20% groomed). As much as i'd love to think that i need a real powder ski, the reality is that most of my skiing will be all mountain. and the versatility of the Mojo would be hard to beat. Apparently the construction also is bulletproof, so thats clinched it.

Thanks again for your feedback!

post #14 of 25
Great, my shop has now suggested a pair of Fischer Kehua's in 177cm!!!
They believe the softer flex will give it an advantage in the powder wrt the Mojo, but without sacrificing too much on the hardpack. Whats more they're abou $100 cheaper than the Mojo's.

As you've found out Pech, there's not a hell of a lot of info out there on the Kehua's.... I'm guessing its the first year this ski is on the market. I did find one comment saying it ski's similar to the Pocket Rocket but less of a noodle...

Any thoughts??

post #15 of 25


My thoughts are that, if your local shop carries the Kehua, demo it for a day and maybe a couple other skis (FYI - Some shops will apply the cost of demoing skis to the purchase of a ski -- sometimes up to 3 demo days!).

If you feel good on the Kehua and it fits the terrain you ski (and your budget), go for it! And if you really want to save some $, ask the store mgr if he's interested in selling the demo pair of Kehua's at the end of the season. You can probably work out a deal w/ him/her.

One of my local shops also carries the Kehua. The shop manager skis it and has nothing but good things to say about it. From handling it, I agree the ski is on the light side and flexible, although not as light and flexible as the Salomon Gun. Kehua has a wood core. The surfer-inspired graphics are way cool (but we don't care about stuff like that, do we? )

It seems we all want to go wide and twin-tip for all-mountain these days, but remember -- IMHO you might be able to manage a 90+ waisted ski in the bumps (especially powder bumps), but don't expect them to rip. I only mention this because I ski a lot of bumps at Mary Jane. That's why I'll always hold onto my my old K2 Axis Xs (70 in the waist) for mogul and carving days, even when I pick up something wider.

But, yes, wide skis offer an extremely fun skiing experience. I had a blast on a pair of those "noodle-y" Guns last week, in fact. You'd probably be happy on a bunch of brands. But if the Kehua feel and price is right, Surfs Up, dude! Go w/ your gut and buy'em.
post #16 of 25

Thanks for all the advice. I've yet to find any site approaching the depth of knowledge, objective and rational advice availible here!

So, I finally pulled the trigger on the Kehua's.... I felt the Mojo's would have been more versatile, but as i'm off for a 2wk backcountry and powder holiday i thought i may as well get something more tuned for those conditions. I've always got the TF's to fall back on for most other conditions. I know i've broken the golden rule, but unfortunately I'm not in a position to demo them, or anything else for that matter, so my only point of reference was this site. However i struck gold with the TF's based on researching Epic, so i'm hoping for a repeat here.

I'll post a review of the Kehuas once i've skied them.


post #17 of 25
I've got about 7 days in on my mojo's (166) now. They have been surprisingly great under a wide range of conditions varying from hardpack to pow. However, today with up to knee deep conditions, I found that they just dont quite handle the deep pow as well as something like the B3(aka b4 168) or K2 SV (169). I think it's something to do with the forward mounting. I skied all 3 mounted with at the factory mark.

The Mojo felt just a too turny and short as compared with the other skis. In really deep & heavy pow, I quickly came to realize that less sidecut and more rear mounted is better.

So for the really deep days (>1'), I think I'd reaching for the B3/B4's and save the Mojo's for everything else.
post #18 of 25

Just out of curiosity, how tall are you and what do you weigh?

post #19 of 25
I can just agree with exactly everything you have said pchelman!
I demoed the Mojo 90 last time i was skiing and it was a really sweet ski! Even though I only tried it on steep hard black runs with layers of snow on top, i got a pretty good overall review of it... These skis are the perfect allround ski! They are really fun to carve with, and in my point of view, precisely as much radius you need. If it geets to icy and u start to feel that u can't carve them anymore, you can easily straightline the MoJo and they will go through the chopped up snow...
As said before, the ski is heavy when you carry it, but when it's on your feet, the heaviness is gone!

When i compare the MoJo 90 (176) with my own ski, the Scratch BC in 178, i get the feeling that the 2 skis are very similar. The things that differ is that the Scratch BC is larger and got bigger radius. It turns a bit slower, but you can go faster...

So if you want an easier ski and haven't got high demands of the skis pow-abilities, go for the MoJo. If you want a bigger ski for skiing pow, but still wanna push the limits and carve big in the groomed runs, then you should go for the Scratch BC.
post #20 of 25
anyone taken these in the bumps... i am learning/trying to be more of a zipperline bump skier but can only afford one pair of skis...how are the mojos. I am also looking at the PE and the karma? Thanks
post #21 of 25
Like previous poster said, these are pretty good bump skis for their width. I am much better in the moguls with Mojo 90's than my old skis, but I think that was due to the shorter length as much as anything (Dropping from 197cm Olin Sierras). I'd agree with most other statements - very lively, great in the trees when you HAVE to turn, and reasonable in powder. I've had a pair for a couple of years (I've got the snake head topsheets), and will go a few more years with my 186cm Mojo 90's. I set the bindings up 20mm to the tail, which certainly helps in big mountain skiing. If you mounted them in the midpoint, I could see them being harder to handle in the powder.

When I bought these, I was considering the Salomon 1080 guns. I consider the Mojo as a stiffer gun. Afterwards, I rented Guns at Val d'Isere last season and they sucked at bumps and anything hardpacked. So I'm glad I went with the Mojo's.

Only thing I would change would be the twin tips. They are a pain shoving them into gondola slots and shuttle bus tubes. If you think that was a showstopper, then I'd recommend demoing Salomon X-Wing Tornados - very lively, quick turners that would rip in the bumps, and a flat tail.
post #22 of 25
Pechelman, I have a question for you seeing as you've skied the PE and the Mojo... I demoed the PE and loved it, but the topsheet looked like hell & have read that this is normal which left me wondering... If I love the agility and performance of the PE, will I find a similar feel and ride with the Mojo without the durability issues? If you could directly compare the two a bit I would really appreciate it.
post #23 of 25

PE Topsheet Improved?

Originally Posted by DoWork View Post
Pechelman,...I demoed the PE and loved it, but the topsheet looked like hell & have read that this is normal which left me wondering... If I love the agility and performance of the PE...
I read about the PE having serious topsheet problems also, but from what I have read elsewhere, this was with the older models and was improved with the '06-07 model year...what year were your rentals?
post #24 of 25
No they were new 08 skis, and they looked like they were involved in a freakin shark attack. Kind of disconcerting because I'm usually pretty hard on my equipment. I'm hoping the Mojo will allow me to have as much fun as the PE without the risk of some idiot boarder running them over in the liftline and *oops* there goes the whole damn topsheet. Anyone else feel free to jump in here I'm just looking for some comparison.
post #25 of 25
Well, my 2 year old Mojo's topsheets are holding up great. The snakehide/rippled top coat hides scratches well, and seems to shed snow and ice better than a smooth surface too.

The PE topsheet looks crappy brand new (JMHO). Can't stand the scrawly doodles.
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