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post #1 of 18
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woah! what a long 8 days it has been... i just returned from french alps this morning and it was the best vacation of my life, amazing terrain, abolutly no trees and beautiful weather. I stayed in the courcheval valley of the trois vallees resort with 8 friends in a fairly big chalet and it was absolutly amazing. We are already thinking about next year lol!

next year we are thinking of going out west because the alp trip was very expensive even tho we all payed equally for the chalet the airfare is where about 50% of the budget goes maybe even like 70%

ok so next year we are thinking of going out west same group but we dont want to go anywhere we've already been ill try to rmbr the hwole list
-whistler
-fernie
-sunshine/banff/lakelouise
-kimberley

that's like almost all the "good" resorts in BC and i want to try maybe kicking horse (but i heard it usually has bad weather at the base to mid and their lift sytem sux), vail (looks nice but when i look at the lift ticket prices i go BOJANGOES!!!!!! or O LA LA!!!!! 81USD to canadian dollars is like 100$ a lift ticket and i don't know if everryone in our group will agree to pay that whistler if i rembr correctly was around 70$ canadian.

so if you guys have any suggestion on resorts to visit plz list them, as long as they meet these criteria
-not "vail" expensive
-fairly good verticle altho not that important if it is high altitutude
-not alot of trees
-and good weather during chrsitmas break (good as in good snow preferably powder, in france it was like packed powder and powder in some places whihc was really nice)

thnx all and belated merry christmas and all the best in the new year!!!!
post #2 of 18
Utah. Best I've found so far.
post #3 of 18
Thread Starter 
speaking of utah i've heard of park city but it was mixed opinions, i've also heard about alta, snowbird

and i'm also curious of the lake tahoe resorts but when i look at them they all seem to have trees all the way to the top.
post #4 of 18
I've been to all the Utah resorts. Alta and snowbird get a ton of snow, best I've ever skied. The tahoe resorts have areas that do not have trees. The snow is not as dry but sticks to the steeps like no other place. Squaw Valley is a great place with some of the steepest runs around. Feb is a good month to go as Jan can get rain.
post #5 of 18
I would stay away from Utah.:
post #6 of 18
Quote:
Originally Posted by staffpro
woah! what a long 8 days it has been... i just returned from french alps this morning and it was the best vacation of my life, amazing terrain, abolutly no trees and beautiful weather. I stayed in the courcheval valley of the trois vallees resort with 8 friends in a fairly big chalet and it was absolutly amazing. We are already thinking about next year lol!

next year we are thinking of going out west because the alp trip was very expensive even tho we all payed equally for the chalet the airfare is where about 50% of the budget goes maybe even like 70%

ok so next year we are thinking of going out west same group but we dont want to go anywhere we've already been ill try to rmbr the hwole list
-whistler
-fernie
-sunshine/banff/lakelouise
-kimberley

that's like almost all the "good" resorts in BC and i want to try maybe kicking horse (but i heard it usually has bad weather at the base to mid and their lift sytem sux), vail (looks nice but when i look at the lift ticket prices i go BOJANGOES!!!!!! or O LA LA!!!!! 81USD to canadian dollars is like 100$ a lift ticket and i don't know if everryone in our group will agree to pay that whistler if i rembr correctly was around 70$ canadian.

so if you guys have any suggestion on resorts to visit plz list them, as long as they meet these criteria
-not "vail" expensive
-fairly good verticle altho not that important if it is high altitutude
-not alot of trees
-and good weather during chrsitmas break (good as in good snow preferably powder, in france it was like packed powder and powder in some places whihc was really nice)

thnx all and belated merry christmas and all the best in the new year!!!!
You were in Courchevel between christmmas and new year eve, right ? And were satisfied with the snow ? I was quite close to you (see Val d'Isère TR) and the conditions were crap, until friday. How thick was the snow base in the 3 vallées ? In Val, off piste sucked (too much rocks) and the groomers were concrete... I'm jealous !
post #7 of 18
Quote:
Originally Posted by staffpro
speaking of utah i've heard of park city but it was mixed opinions, i've also heard about alta, snowbird

and i'm also curious of the lake tahoe resorts but when i look at them they all seem to have trees all the way to the top.
What's wrong with some trees? "Branch" out a little eh! Sorry, bad pun. Seriously though, you're not considering some great places because they have trees? Heli-trip to AK sounds like your thing but unfortunately that type of adventure is a little more than "Vail expensive".
post #8 of 18
If you don't need wild night life , you should try Mammoth. It's a skiers resort with every kind of terrain available. I've had a chance to ski all over the west and I keep coming back to Mammoth. I've been skiing there since the late 50's. You just can't get bored. There is just too much variety. You just need to stay away from the Canyons part of the mountain because of the clueless crowds starting their day there because it is the closest to the town .I'd start my day at the main lodge. The mountain is huge. All of it acreage is skiable unlike alot of other ski resorts that claim to have more terrain. The terrain parks are second to none so it keeps the boarders occupied.(I'm soory but I just don't respect most boarders--boardering is for skiers who can't). Mammoth is not the easiest to get to but it is worth the effort.
post #9 of 18
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by philippeR
You were in Courchevel between christmmas and new year eve, right ? And were satisfied with the snow ? I was quite close to you (see Val d'Isère TR) and the conditions were crap, until friday. How thick was the snow base in the 3 vallées ? In Val, off piste sucked (too much rocks) and the groomers were concrete... I'm jealous !
ye val d'isere is actually really close lol i'm surprised you didn't have a good time, val d'isere is only about 50km away from the 3 valleys, when i was there there was good base all across the 3 valleys except maybe not alot (but u couldn't even tell) in the orelle aea probably because it is the lowest, i only went there one day as i sorta did this tour and i traversed 2 valleys whihc took very long so i only did one run there.

the conditions in the courcheval valley and the second one val thorens were also very nice the first 3 days we were there there was already alot of snow but there was a very mild snowstorm and then the next five days was sunshine!

conditions all across valley were similar to this picture which i think is from today that lift is pretty close to where i stayed.


and regarding the post about trees, it's not that i don't like them i just don;t ant alot of them, it's ok if they can be found lower but i like to ski clear bowls, similar to 3 vallees or something like the above webcam pic.

oh one other thing i was ther between 25 december and jan 3rd
post #10 of 18
Lucky you !
Always amazing to see how the weather can be different from valley to valley. The only real snow fall we've got was on 12/31 and 01/01.
But I did get a good time ! As long as there's snow, it's a good time...
post #11 of 18
Don't mean to dampen the good times you guys had - but i lost a friend on Jan 1st in this:

Two mountain climbers, two skiers killed in French Alps
January 01, 2006
GRENOBLE, France — Two mountain climbers and two skiers died in the French Alps on Sunday during a weekend with high avalanche risk, rescue services said. Two other people were still missing.

Near the Courchevel ski station, an American from California was killed by an avalanche as he skied off-piste, rescue services said. The victim was identified as Ajay Tambe, a 42-year-old Indian-born man from Cupertino, California.

The bodies of two mountain climbers were discovered at the base of a climb on the Mont Blanc mountain and it was unclear whether they fell or were victims of an avalanche, rescue services said. Both were foreigners, but rescuers declined to provide further details on their identities.

At the Valoire station, a woman in her 50s who was skiing off-piste was trapped by an avalanche and died soon after being transported to a hospital. Her identity was not released.

In the same station, rescuers were searching for a missing snowboarder. Another skier was missing in the small station of Saint-Colomban-les-Vilards.
France's national weather service had declared this weekend a high-risk weekend for avalanches in parts of the French Alps, with a warning level of four out of five.

— The Associated Press
post #12 of 18
Marty:

Genuinely sorry for your loss.

Can't really decide if its a positive or a negative going out while doing something you love. That said, it did seem early.

Staffpro:

Seems that you are from the north side of the border. That's certainly fine by me, but I can see where some places on the south side can seem less of a value.

If you are considering Fernie, you might also check into Big Mountain, MT, some 70 or so miles south. In the past, I'm seem to remember the mountain honored Canadian dollars at par, if you could show proof of citizenship. A lot of great terrain for all abilities, very laid back local crowd, decent village, and free Snow Bus to the nearby sleepy, but nice town of Whitefish. Everything was reasonable the last time I was there 3 years ago. However, one of the big developers (Intrawest?) bought in not too far back and may be in the process of ruining a great hill. Confirm before making any plans.

I don't think Fernie or Big Mountain would be a good pick before the middle of January though.

Dave
post #13 of 18
Quote:
Originally Posted by Marty
Don't mean to dampen the good times you guys had - but i lost a friend on Jan 1st in this:

Two mountain climbers, two skiers killed in French Alps
January 01, 2006
GRENOBLE, France — Two mountain climbers and two skiers died in the French Alps on Sunday during a weekend with high avalanche risk, rescue services said. Two other people were still missing.

Near the Courchevel ski station, an American from California was killed by an avalanche as he skied off-piste, rescue services said. The victim was identified as Ajay Tambe, a 42-year-old Indian-born man from Cupertino, California.

The bodies of two mountain climbers were discovered at the base of a climb on the Mont Blanc mountain and it was unclear whether they fell or were victims of an avalanche, rescue services said. Both were foreigners, but rescuers declined to provide further details on their identities.

At the Valoire station, a woman in her 50s who was skiing off-piste was trapped by an avalanche and died soon after being transported to a hospital. Her identity was not released.

In the same station, rescuers were searching for a missing snowboarder. Another skier was missing in the small station of Saint-Colomban-les-Vilards.
France's national weather service had declared this weekend a high-risk weekend for avalanches in parts of the French Alps, with a warning level of four out of five.

— The Associated Press
That's too bad, Marty. I'm really sorry to hear it.
post #14 of 18
Thread Starter 
i am very sorry to hear this marty, and it's actually osrta weird i didn't hear about it when i was there i must have been in another valley when it happened but i do recall seeing some emergency vehicles.

BUT i did hear about the high avalanche warnings so i took that into consideration each day.
post #15 of 18
Thread Starter 
i beleive avalanche happened rite here

35 degree pitch, not that much so it gives u idea philliperr how much snow i had during my vacation an avalanche on a pitch less than this ---> \ lol that was pretty bad example
post #16 of 18
Big Sky Montana would be another good option. With the combined ticket to Moonlight Basin and plenty of above-the-treeline skiing, you can't go wrong. However, the travel from the nearest airport to the resort kind of sucks, but with that also comes VERY light crowds, and the weather can be brutally cold.

Look at the stats:

Big Sky
4300 vert
3600 acres
A tram that is rivaled only by Jackson Hole's

Moonlight Basin
4100 vert
1900 acres

Both resorts are covered in expert terrain as well. Just a thought.
post #17 of 18
Quote:
Originally Posted by Marty
Don't mean to dampen the good times you guys had - but i lost a friend on Jan 1st in this:

Two mountain climbers, two skiers killed in French Alps
January 01, 2006
GRENOBLE, France — Two mountain climbers and two skiers died in the French Alps on Sunday during a weekend with high avalanche risk, rescue services said. Two other people were still missing.

Near the Courchevel ski station, an American from California was killed by an avalanche as he skied off-piste, rescue services said. The victim was identified as Ajay Tambe, a 42-year-old Indian-born man from Cupertino, California.

The bodies of two mountain climbers were discovered at the base of a climb on the Mont Blanc mountain and it was unclear whether they fell or were victims of an avalanche, rescue services said. Both were foreigners, but rescuers declined to provide further details on their identities.

At the Valoire station, a woman in her 50s who was skiing off-piste was trapped by an avalanche and died soon after being transported to a hospital. Her identity was not released.

In the same station, rescuers were searching for a missing snowboarder. Another skier was missing in the small station of Saint-Colomban-les-Vilards.
France's national weather service had declared this weekend a high-risk weekend for avalanches in parts of the French Alps, with a warning level of four out of five.

— The Associated Press
Sorry to hear that Marty.
Yes, avalanche warning was at 3/5 before the snow falls of 12/31 and 4/5 after that, when 60cm of fresh snow fell on the frozen base with a big rise of the temperature (bad combo). A snowboarder has been killed in an avy in Tignes 2 weeks ago, with a snow pack of less than 40cm !
Add this to the rocks and you'll understand why I mostly stood on the groomers...
post #18 of 18
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Forrester
Big Sky Montana would be another good option. With the combined ticket to Moonlight Basin and plenty of above-the-treeline skiing, you can't go wrong. However, the travel from the nearest airport to the resort kind of sucks, but with that also comes VERY light crowds, and the weather can be brutally cold.

Look at the stats:

Big Sky
4300 vert
3600 acres
A tram that is rivaled only by Jackson Hole's

Moonlight Basin
4100 vert
1900 acres

Both resorts are covered in expert terrain as well. Just a thought.
thanks a whole lot!!! i never knew a resort like this existed, it looks really nice from the pictures, and i love no crowds. it looks like we will be going there because i am looking at the prices right now and they are quite resonable, the travel is not a problem for me as it pays of with the no crowds, the tram looks very nice.

one other question, since it looks to me the 2 resorts are connected by lone peak, does that mean u can ride the tram up at big and then go down at moonlight and go back up with same ticket?? or are the tickets only for the resort you buy them for?

thnx, it looks like it wil be either this or snow bird but i'm leaning more to this because it just looks amazing!

UPDATE: nvm i just found it u can buy a "lone peak ticket" which still costs less than vails ticket absolutly amazing!!! thnx for telling me about this!!!!
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