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New parka - moving from OLD SCHOOL to 21st century

post #1 of 16
Thread Starter 
It's time to replace my Nordica 3/4 length circa 1995 parka. Of course in 95 they were all insulated.

SO my question is..... I really like this one from Mountain Hardwear

http://www.sierratradingpost.com/xq/...qx/product.htm

what kind of layering will I need to be as warm as the insulated parka was?

oh - and if you know of any other good jackets (for good prices) for women, please feel free to post em up!

thanks!
post #2 of 16
A good base layer and then a fleece insulating layer should do you quite well. If you run cold, make them a bit heavier (an EW base with a thicker fleece). If warmer, thinner (an MW or LW base with a thinner fleece).
post #3 of 16
Thread Starter 
do people buy insulated parkas anymore?

going the layering route makes it harder to figure out what size
post #4 of 16
Most of the shells are sized for layering. For example, I just wear L in everything.

Very few folks buy insulated parkas. Layering gives you so much more flexibility and freedom to adjust. I have a number of base garments, from LW through EW. I have a Patagonia R2 fleece jacket (which is pretty light), plus older fleeces that're double-layer and varying thicknesses. And my Patagonia Stretch Element hardshell. I can dial in pretty much anything I need. I did similar for the bottoms, but only two layers there.
post #5 of 16
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Originally Posted by ssh
Most of the shells are sized for layering. For example, I just wear L in everything.

Very few folks buy insulated parkas. Layering gives you so much more flexibility and freedom to adjust. I have a number of base garments, from LW through EW. I have a Patagonia R2 fleece jacket (which is pretty light), plus older fleeces that're double-layer and varying thicknesses. And my Patagonia Stretch Element hardshell. I can dial in pretty much anything I need. I did similar for the bottoms, but only two layers there.
I think I'm good on the bottoms - I've been wearing shell pants for years and I wear a windproof "mountain hardwear" (well, the ems house brand equivalent) layer underneath.

Thanks for the help!

edit: btw, is that a good deal above?
post #6 of 16
It looks pretty good to me. That retail price is about right for that jacket. It's 2-layer and you can get the 3-layer for an additional $10, so you might want to consider that, depending on which type you prefer. I went with this 3-layer to get the additional protection.
post #7 of 16
I use an insolated parka when I know its going to be really cold. The Mountain Hardwear parka you have a link to has the features I look for --
pit vents, a powder skirt, a hood, breathable material & nylon outer material.

An added feature of this parka is they use polyester for the upper liner around your neck which feels much nicer than nylon.
post #8 of 16
SSH,

The Stretch Element looks like great jacket. Does it have a powder skirt? The name(and description) says stretch, so it's a soft shell?

Pete
post #9 of 16
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ssh
It looks pretty good to me. That retail price is about right for that jacket. It's 2-layer and you can get the 3-layer for an additional $10, so you might want to consider that, depending on which type you prefer. I went with this 3-layer to get the additional protection.
oooh, that's nice too. Anyone ever put Patagonia on sale?
post #10 of 16
It's an alpine jacket, not an EDGE (their skier's line), so no powder skirt. It's a hard shell, but has some stretch to it. The hood rolls, but does not zip off.

For an EDGE jacket, you may want to look at the Chute to Thrill (that Noodler bought this year). It isn't CSS this year, though, and I really wanted that. Other than that, though, it has more ski-specific features than the Stretch Element.
post #11 of 16
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Originally Posted by MtnBikerChk
oooh, that's nice too. Anyone ever put Patagonia on sale?
Pretty rare, in my experience.
post #12 of 16
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ssh
Pretty rare, in my experience.
mine too
post #13 of 16
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Originally Posted by ssh
It's an alpine jacket, not an EDGE (their skier's line), so no powder skirt. It's a hard shell, but has some stretch to it. The hood rolls, but does not zip off.

For an EDGE jacket, you may want to look at the Chute to Thrill (that Noodler bought this year). It isn't CSS this year, though, and I really wanted that. Other than that, though, it has more ski-specific features than the Stretch Element.
But I also picked up the Patagonia White Smoke soft shell that does use the new CSS seam technology. I have to admit that I have a lot more days in with my White Smoke than the Chute to Thrill - it's just a lot more comfortable (obviously since it's a soft shell).

Anyhow, I really like the Mountain Hardwear line and that jacket looks like it would serve you well.
post #14 of 16
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Originally Posted by MtnBikerChk
do people buy insulated parkas anymore?

going the layering route makes it harder to figure out what size
Sure do. I have shells as well, but nothing beats an insulated jacket for the cold, plus, I'd rather only have to remove one outer layer in the lodge, than peel off 4 or 5.

My latest purchase was a DNA jacket last season, the model is called the 'Cat Lady'. Looks good and very practical.
post #15 of 16
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Originally Posted by Noodler
But I also picked up the Patagonia White Smoke soft shell that does use the new CSS seam technology. I have to admit that I have a lot more days in with my White Smoke than the Chute to Thrill - it's just a lot more comfortable (obviously since it's a soft shell).
I thought you had and it had, but couldn't get the Patagonia site to tell me about the White Smoke! Weird...

But, I'm loving the CSS... Light, compressible... really nice.
post #16 of 16
Quote:
Originally Posted by MtnBikerChk
oooh, that's nice too. Anyone ever put Patagonia on sale?
Blue Ridge Mountain sports (brms.com) usually has a 20% off sale in Oct, Nov, Dec, Jan for a different brand each month. I know because I missed the Mtn Hardwear sale in October and North Face sale in November!! But I did use a 20% off (anything) coupon from them to get a North Face jacket (Mountain Light) in December so I finally did something right. I don't remember which month Patagonia is on sale, but the Dec coupon would have worked for that too.

Craig
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