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Volant FB

post #1 of 14
Thread Starter 
Took my FB's out last Sat. to see how they would ski frozen granular. I have the 175 cm. I'm 175 lbs. 6 ft.

First time down the hill, the weight and girth of this ski is pretty noticeable, but they surprisingly were very easy to ski on a groomed surface. Super short radius turns definitely not their strong suit, but they carve nice mid to longer turns. Stability is unbelievable , as there is minimal deflection even on frozen "golf balls". They are very confidence inspiring when skiing "death cookies" and make a pinging sound when skiing through the rough stuff.

I got them to take on vacation as a second ski in the event of a powder day, and also in the spring to push around the slop- mashed potatoes. Loaned them to my buddy who is out in Vail this week in the hopes he would see some powder and get to ski them in the conditions they were designed for.

I didn't pay much for them and I think they are a worthwhile addition to the "quiver". Hopefully I will get the chance to ski them in some deep snow .

There's probably better deep snow skis out there, but the FB's are a lot of fun and very skiable on groomed surfaces.
post #2 of 14
Yea i Skied the 185's (really 190) last year and loved them.. Too big for me so I sold them and picked up some seth pistol 175's but they are sick for crushing everything... Enjoy
post #3 of 14
I will report on mine as soon as I ski them. I just got the 175 as well (160lb, 5'7"). They look like a lot of fun.
post #4 of 14
Where have you guys mounted yours. Mine get here tomorrow and I am thinking I will have them mounted 1.5 cm back from the line so I can get a little better powder performance out of them.
post #5 of 14
Thread Starter 
Mine were mounted at midpoint. At least I hope the tech mounted that way. Again here in the banna belt we don't get to ski much powder.
post #6 of 14
I had my 175''s (a tad short for me, 5'10" 200) out for half a day. Being a Volant skier, I kinda knew what to expect for the stability and control. What did surprise me was how easy they were to ski in 2-3" of fresh snow over packed. I figured they were going to be much more cumbersome than they were. They did carve a nice turt and were fun in some big bumps. I am interested how they will be in 8-10" snow.
post #7 of 14
I like my mounting point more forward generally, but on the FBs I actually remounted them further back (15mm) from the regular midsole mark. I did this after riding them in about 8-10" of new snow at Copper. With their additional "heft" and stiffness they just wanted to tip dive whenever I wanted to push forward. After the remount I skied them in about 6" of fresh and the problem was definitely improved.

I still don't love this ski for really deep days - I just think it's a bit too stiff for the job. I prefer a more "noodly" ski for anything over 12" of fresh. I'm still trying to figure out where it fits in my quiver and when I'd take it out. With my Sins, my new Elan M777s, and my Stockli Stormrider DPs I'm questioning the sanity of jumping on this great "deal" on the FBs at the end of last season.
post #8 of 14
That makes me happy to hear noodler, because I just took mine in to get mounted today, and the tech tried to talk me out of mounting them 1.5 back, but I told him to do it anyway
post #9 of 14
I mounted mine (and Heluvaskier's) about 1.5 back too.
post #10 of 14
And it was a very professionally done mounting job, jig and all.
post #11 of 14

first day out on FBs

short post as i need to crash for day 2:
took out the shorter of my 2 pairs (the other 175) - 165 to mount snow today - which is mostly hardpack at this point. the ski was predicably stable and solid - and while i was expecting to need to adjust to its added mass, it feltsurprisingly pretty agile and light. a great combination on the surfaces i rarely ski - in favor of bumps and chopped powder. this is by far the most fun and confidence-inspiring ski i've owned (my most current everyday skis: 5* 165, on leave awaiting surgery...and fischer fx7.6 FTI 175, awaiting base weld) yes the centering of the ski's mass seems to be the key here. i didn't feel any need to do anything differently, in spite of its wide waist. the hardest part was carrying it across the parking lot! and yes, it appears to have no speed limit but for one's fear of spilling hard...(this may be a trickier prospect in powder!)
later took it out on beartrap's still firm but improving bumps, and found the ski very amenable to rotary turns. still need to dial it in a bit in this setting, but the bumps made for very hard landings, and were mostly mishapen where they were spaced favorably - the more rhythmically arranged bumps were islands on a bed of slab...but expect ample opportunity to find some better bumps tomorrow if i can get up early enough for a full day at MRG.
i'm curious to see how the ski does after a nice dump, especially in this shorter length (i had the binding mounted on center, though i intend to mount 1-1/2cm back on the 175), but till then, the FB is shaping up to be a very nice all-mountain ski that may do more well that its specialized footprint would suggest. nothing new said in this respect, but a very enthusiastic agreement with much of what's been written here thus far. still havent gotten to hear it's death cookie-munching PING yet, but all in good time ;^)
more to follow...
post #12 of 14

First Time Out On My FB's

Since the weather was a balmy 50 degrees today, and the hill was mostly slush, I decided that it would be a good day to take a ski that when it isn't being ridden on can double as a shovel. It has been awhile since I was on a fat ski, so it took me a few turns to get used to putting them on edge. Once I had dialed them in, they really took off. They ski similar to a soft GS ski that can plow through just about anything on the mountain. I got them in some crusty/icy snow and they held on very well. They don't like abrupt movements when initiating the turn, but once you hook them up you can go along for the ride.

I could get the carved turns down to a medium sized turn before I had to use rotary to tighten it up. I also took a run in some hard crusty bumps as well - which they also dealt with nicely. Pretty much there wasn't anything that they couldn't ski on. I did blow both skis off at one point carving on top of the refreezing snow as it got colder, so I think I need higher DIN if I am going to be carving on bumpy, crust,y half-frozen snow.

I was really surprised at how easily these skied though. They really aren't as stiff as people made them out to be. If I were out west skiing large bowls I might even consider a longer length. One thing I did notice was that they have a VERY SOFT tail. If you get in the back seat (I am mounted 1.5 cm back so there is even less tail behind me) you are pretty much done for it if you are trying to carve a turn on something harder than freshly fallen powder. If the skis were mounted in their center, this may be less of a problem, but I don't think they would ski nearly as well as they do with a rearward mounting point.



Racer/Level 9
160lb 5'7"
Conditions: Slush/Frozen Crust
post #13 of 14
HeluvaSkier - interesting observations on the FB. Thanks for the report.

I would agree that the FB is nowhere near as stiff as most of the skis that you usually ride and they do have a "forgiving" tail (just like the Sin and Soul). But what I like about them is that even though they're not ridiculously stiff longitudinally they have incredible torsional strength and can really bite into the slope. I'm having a tough time deciding on which mid-fats to take to ESA - the Stormrider XL, the Elan M666, or the Sin.
post #14 of 14
Well, if you need help making your decision I will gladly take one pair (or even two pairs) of any of those skis off your hands so that your decision is easier... I would take whatever ski likes the tightest turns - meaning carved groomer friendly turns. (Actually I would probably just take the Stockli and say the hell with it...) But, with ESA you will probably spend some of your time on groomers, so you will want something that you are going to be skiing at your peak on, regardless of terrain. If I were looking to go to ESA I would probably ski my Dobermann SLR's for groomers, just because that is what I am most comfortable on, and I know I can rip any size turn on them (I would also throw in my FB's for off piste skiing). I don't know the formatt of the event really well, but I assume there are groups that focus on different types of skiing... Where do you think you will find yourself skiing most of the time?


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