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post #61 of 71
Originally Posted by codyblank
i dont think im keeping my upperbody facing downhill like Lito Tejada-Flores said in his book is that why there is some much friction between the skis and snow
Try standing sideways on a hill with your body facing across the hill, Then slowly rotate your body to face down the hill and watch what your feet and legs do.

To do this comfortably and without moving your feet you will see why it works. Pay attention to what your hips and legs need to do to keep you from falling over.

post #62 of 71
Originally Posted by codyblank
so sideslips are a very good exercise for hockey stops?
Proper side slips and slides are good exercise for edge control and edge control is essencially what a hocky stop is. hard edges.
post #63 of 71
Thread Starter 
i really appreciate everyone that has helped me learned this great sport and hope you will help me in the future like you have. .thanks to all.espically dchan
post #64 of 71
Thread Starter 
edging is also a way to turn ,right
post #65 of 71
Yes, edging is also a way to turn. Typically, you use the edges on one side of each ski to turn to that side, eg. cross-section of skis from the back looks like / / to turn left.

If you are trying to get your skis around at 90 degrees to your direction of of travel by tipping them so the skis turn, then you turn too and there is no stop.

The easiest way around this on groomed flat snow is to keep your skis flat or almost flat to the snow _ _ and do the twist while not having much weight on you feet; jump up just before doing it.

The other thing that you should be able to do with a little practice sidesliping is have the angle / / just enough so that by weighting the front of your skis, the rear edge lets go, but the front hangs onto the snow, causing the skis to turn faster than you do. Once you have your skis at 90 degrees to your direction of travel, the hockey stop is just like a sideslip. Readjust your fore-aft balance and edge the skis more to stop.
post #66 of 71
Thread Starter 
the only way i have figured out to stop right now is to almost lift my inside ski off the snow and that brings me to a stop,is this an effective way to stop
post #67 of 71
if it works for you..
post #68 of 71
Thread Starter 
in hockey stops you literally JUMP off the snow to turn the skis
post #69 of 71
Originally Posted by codyblank
in hockey stops you literally JUMP off the snow to turn the skis
No, in fact it's harder to do with a jump and more likely to cause a binding release when you land. Just enough of an "up" movement so there is not much weight force on the skis when you spin them.

Stand up right now next to you computer and do the twist. You know what that is (Toes to the left as upper body spins to the right anc vise versa; just think of the beer comercial with the guy in the window doing the twist because the beer top says twist to open)?
Notice that the floor trys to keep you feet from twisting. The snow does the same thing to your skis. It's easier to twist when the weight isn' t pushing down through your feet.

Probably when you lift one ski, it causes you to angle the remaining ski enought to turn sharply, so sharp that the tail edge releases and you get your skis sideways. Try lifting the other ski a bit at the same time as it starts to move out.
post #70 of 71

Here are the movements you're looking for. Illustrated courtesy of Bob Barnes from this thread: http://forums.epicski.com/showthread.php?t=8762

Originally Posted by Bob Barnes/Colorado

Pivot Slips --Ric Reiter (VailSnoPro)

Pivot Slips overhead--showing the essential independent leg steering movements that Ric demonstrates so well in the previous image, and that define contemporary skiing.
post #71 of 71
Thread Starter 
thanks very much for the animation,excellent
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