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post #1 of 15
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Taos Ski Valley is having its worst year in at least 10 years so far. A measley 33" have fallen this year. The off-trail base is 13-15", although that seems generous from what I've seen. In the Southern Rockies only Crested Butte has more severe terrain (and that is usually very bumped out) than Taos.
....A couple of major storms could improve things quickly, but i"m mainly looking forward to a Utah trip in Feb.
post #2 of 15
The snow is really "interesting" again this year. Like last year, when Utah got pounded and Montana had nothing, we're doing great in the central mountains (30% above average) while the southern mountains are 70% below average. Weird.
post #3 of 15
Wasn't Taos pounded last year in epic fashion? I know the Pacific NW resorts were snow starved. This year it seems to be the opposite (at least I've heard some reports that the PNW is doing pretty well). "Averages" are just that -- one fabulous year + one terrible year = 2 average snowfall years for the marketing dept.

New England got diddly-squat until mid February last year at which point we got pounded until early April. We've had a good December -- who knows what the rest of winter will bring.

Don't gloat too much when Mother Nature is smiling, and don't bitch too much when she's looking the other way. It averages out.
post #4 of 15
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Originally Posted by ssh
The snow is really "interesting" again this year. Like last year, when Utah got pounded and Montana had nothing, we're doing great in the central mountains (30% above average) while the southern mountains are 70% below average. Weird.
Just to add to the discussion.

We're not complaining here in Jackson Hole. We've had 214" so far, which is slightly ahead of "normal". The skiing is great and everyone is in a good mood.

But...

The weather swings we've had have been unbelievable. We started December with very little snow below below 8,000' elevation. The first week of December, we got pounded with about 40" of snow that made everything far better. Then we went into a two-week, COLD, dry period where temps got down to minus 35F.

When the cold snap ended, we went from 35 below to 45 above in about a day and a half. The snowpack started MELTING! In DECEMBER?!?!

Less than 24 hours later, it started snowing. And snowing, and snowing, and snowing.

The result?

If you just look at snowfall amounts, we've had a pretty "normal" season so far. If you look at what the weather has done in getting to "normal", nobody around here can remember such wild fluctuations.

Does anyone still seriously believe that SOMETHING crazy isn't going on with the weather?
post #5 of 15
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Originally Posted by Bob Peters
Does anyone still seriously believe that SOMETHING crazy isn't going on with the weather?
No doubt in my mind. :
post #6 of 15
There is definitely something crazy going on with the weather especially in the last 12 months.

Dec 04 - major Tsunami hits Asia
dec 04 - tahoe gets more snow than it has ever in over 80 years.
05 - major cat 4, 5 hurricanes in new orleans and Florida
05 - unusually long and wet monsoon in Asia - first time in 100 years.
and then all of the stuff that Bob P. mentioned above.

i don't know what it is - but there is something going on.
post #7 of 15
Marty, I'm with you on all except the Tsunami. That wasn't weather (earthquake). However, I have read that the Tsunami earthquake may have actually tweaked the earth's rotation and/or orbit. Who knows what that could do? In addition to all of the other possible sources, of course.
post #8 of 15
Where is the snow in the USA? My resort has had 133 to 259 for the season and now the base is 76 to 148 and we're getting pounded today too. Daily updated snow map for today 1-2-2006:

http://www.nohrsc.noaa.gov/snow_mode...5_National.png

http://www.nohrsc.noaa.gov/snow_mode..._Southwest.png

http://www.nohrsc.noaa.gov/snow_mode...05_Sierras.png
post #9 of 15
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Originally Posted by pablo5z
Taos Ski Valley is having its worst year in at least 10 years so far. A measley 33" have fallen this year. The off-trail base is 13-15", although that seems generous from what I've seen. In the Southern Rockies only Crested Butte has more severe terrain (and that is usually very bumped out) than Taos.
....A couple of major storms could improve things quickly, but i"m mainly looking forward to a Utah trip in Feb.
Taos did have an epic year last season (as did the entire Southwest-I even heard the skiing was good in Arizona!) but we were starved for snow up here. Now, things have turned around: already 100-inch base at Bachelor (and that is mostly wet snow that won't be going anywhere soon). I wish that we could have a more-or-less average year every season. 3 of the last 5 years have been drought years with poor snowpack. The other two have been well above normal.

It sucks to get a ton of snow one year and then nothing the next-even if the snow is good, it is hard to ski more than I normally can (I still have to work, and if the snow is good, that means more customers, and hence more work!) and if the snow is bad, I might get some time off, but won't be skiing much. I would love to take some of those big dump days on the "wet" years and bank them for the following season!
post #10 of 15
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Originally Posted by ssh
The snow is really "interesting" again this year. Like last year, when Utah got pounded and Montana had nothing, we're doing great in the central mountains (30% above average) while the southern mountains are 70% below average. Weird.
Weird, indeed.

I wonder what could be causing it?



post #11 of 15
After getting so spoiled here in NM last year - this year is depressing... Even the drive to Wolf Creek isn't worth it - and the ten day forcast looks grim
post #12 of 15
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Originally Posted by OldSchool
Weird, indeed.

I wonder what could be causing it?
My thoughts exactly.

To further add the conversation, we too have had the weather described by Bob. Utah *seems* (cross fingers) to somehow be in the cross hairs of systems regardless where they come from. My only complaint is that the snow level seems to be higher in the last 5 years than it used to, resulting in more 'base building' snow than our famous light & fluffy. PC resorts saw a rain/snow mix three times in the last two weeks. Unusual to see that more once or twice an entire season. Alta, of course, remains old reliable and gets 500+/- every year.

Powdr
post #13 of 15
In Europe many resorts are putting giant "fleece like" blankets over the receeding glaciers to slow summer melt. Global warming sucks, and it's real.
post #14 of 15
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Originally Posted by Marty
There is definitely something crazy going on with the weather especially in the last 12 months.

Dec 04 - major Tsunami hits Asia
dec 04 - tahoe gets more snow than it has ever in over 80 years.
05 - major cat 4, 5 hurricanes in new orleans and Florida
05 - unusually long and wet monsoon in Asia - first time in 100 years.
and then all of the stuff that Bob P. mentioned above.

i don't know what it is - but there is something going on.
I dunno about your assertion. Weather is completely chaotic, random. (leaving out the tsunami which was a seismic event, not meteorological) Extremes in weather over the short term are generally anecdotal - doesn't translate to any long term significance.
post #15 of 15
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Originally Posted by pablo5z
Taos Ski Valley is having its worst year in at least 10 years so far.
I guess I picked the wrong year to move to Taos! I am trying to tell myself that things could be worse; I could be trying to ski in northern England:
http://www.winterhighland.info/forum...php?2,file=462
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