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post #31 of 35
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TDK6: I have made notes of some important points I think the two that will have the most immediate effects will be:

Not steering my self with my hips and body as one solid unit, but rather leaving the upper body static and as said by SYWSYW quoted by Ron White "Work on moving your hip in on the turns, but not your chest, by compressing your ribcage over the outside ski and streaching it above your inside ski." & by KNEALE BROWNSON "You want to apply your new edges through rolling your feet toward the turn and allowing your hips to move forward and into the turn"

This should lead to stopping the banking that I clearly saw in the video.

The other that made alot of sense was from Bonnie I beleive in keeping the belly button above the toes of the boots. Doing this is impossible with the squat I am doing now to be forward. Pulling the boots back under me was mentioned by someone else to also fix this problem as both movements make it impossible to do the squat to be forward.

I think I will be less concerened with pole planting if not ski without poles for a while as I think I put too much emphesis on this and it is messing up alot of other things. I think perhaps it's best to get the rest in order and then simply add the pole plant.

PIERRE: your post highligthed that perhaps the feet are causing compensation by all the other body parts. I think you are onto something here. My feet are likely the hardest "auto pilot" factor to change as I really noticed them going close over and over despite my strong attempt all week to stay wide. Furthered by your comment of "sufficient forward movement of the hips up over the skis "

LONNIE: http://forums.epicski.com/showthread.php?t=33357

I would like to think I gained significant improvement from the opening day at Marmot vid (lots of input was given here at Epic on that one) to the Panorama 2005 vid simply from two 1.5 hr lessons. I can see no other outcome from all your input and more lessons other than improvement and skiing in the right way. I think my skill set at this point is such that as soon as I am showed the right way and "get the feeling" I will be able to do it rather quickly.

I will post video over the year. Perhaps this will help others that see themselves in my skiing, and maybe will be of some use to instructors as I detail my "learnins" and progress.
post #32 of 35
Originally Posted by Marmot mb
We then did a exersize of relaxing the ski as we come across the fall line and roling the ski into the next turn before we actually start turning. This combined with the wide stance gave me a new sensation and I found this very beneficial. Patience and planning.
That's the one....

post #33 of 35

I must be looking at a different video than the rest of these guys, (Panorama 2005). I see very good skiing. I think that some are failing to see the type of terrain you are skiing in. In some case very steep. In that terrain I would ask you to try and move into the turn a little better. You seem to pop straight up a lot in there, but I understand, in heavy snow its hard not too.

All the talk about upper and lower body separation, you are fine. I see enough in your shorted turns and you don’t really need it in the larger ones. The width of your stance is also fine. There were some suggestions that your legs were glued together. Not that I could see. I could see light between the legs in most cases and that’s enough. Along the lines of stance though, I would try to move the hips a bit forward. You were asked if you could carve. There is no question in my mind that you can, because when you were making a larger radius turn you were carving. Your short radius turns were steered with a twisting of the feet and that’s what you should be doing in the type of terrain you were skiing. In some shots you could back off the twist a bit in the shorter turn though.

The bottom line IMHO, this is excellent skiing and you should continue what you are doing. Continue to take videos of yourself and look at them. If you find something YOU think you need to change, then work on it. Great job.------------Wigs
post #34 of 35
Marmot mb, I am going to respond here to your PM after viewing the video but before reading others' thoughts. I'll get to those thoughts, though, and may add more later.

First, I'll say that your instructor helped you a bunch! Your balance fore/aft is much improved, and your hands and arms more efficient. I would suggest that you check your pole length, though, because they look like they might be a bit long, forcing your hands higher for the pole touches than they need to be.

Your edging/tipping skills seem improved, at least partially because your stance has widened (although not consistently; this is an area of focus that will likely help you over time). You are pushing your tails less and allowing the ski and its sidecut to do more of the work.

Overall, nice improvement, and impressive given the limited time you've spent with an instructor and playing the improvements into your skiing. Well done!
post #35 of 35
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I appreciate your input and the kind words.

Pole length. I think (after great Epic input) that they look long because I am bending over to get or be forward rather than having my feet more under me and a more upright stance. This causes my hips to be too far back depsite being forward more with the upper body.

The shorter poles I bought pre-season do not place my arm at 90 degress with hand underbasket it is angled greater than 90 degrees. I suspected all along that this was a bandaid, but wasn't sure if my stance was correct or not. I now beleive my stance needs to be more upright and the original poles I had will be correct. This buisness of pole length still confuses me as I never seem to get a consistent answer to this one. I beleive the ole 90 degrees arm hand under basket is still correct for standard non super fast GS or bump turns.

Wider stance. Maybe if I put a little neon sign inside my goggles my brain will remember. I did find the faster I went the wider my feet auto piloted. I really really felt the stability this provides when made to do so by my instructor. Going slower when I am more comfortable and not thinking as much they just seemed to verge back together. Wide is certainly better, and I will for sure strive to maintain this more and more.

Fore/aft balance. Would it be safe to assume that with a more upright stance, and hips more over the boots that my stability fore and aft would increase? It happens a few times in the vid where I am mid turn and a slight hill undulation or chuck or something upsets me and I struggle to maintain balance rather than suck it up in stride.

Stupid me, did not spend any time with the boot fitter. My feet felt fine, didn't hurt and were pretty snug with exception of the heel a little. They even had the Insta-print tounge shim for $39.00 and I was going to buy it but simply was having just too much fun skiing and didn't want to stop to go into a ski shop. Stupid on my part really, a few minutes may have made a big differance. The little trick of pushing the tounge down before doing up the upper buckle did help, but after a while the toungue wiggled it's way upwards again. My new stance and letting the skis do the work seemed to minimze the effect of a looser heel and hence I didn't really account it to be a problem worthy of much attention while at Pano.

again thanks for the input.
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