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post #1 of 17
Thread Starter 
hello,

i would like some information on turning.the only way i can figure out to turn is to edge your skis.does anyone have any other techniques i could use to move in the direction i want to go.thanks
post #2 of 17
Turn your feet.
post #3 of 17
Turns, we don't need no stinking turns.
post #4 of 17

Turns

Cody, If you want a lot of info. on turns go to Instruction site on epic. A whole lot of info. Since you asked about hockey stops and how to turn other than edge, is it wrong to assume you are a new skier? I've been skiing for 40 yrs and some of the technical info on epic site confuses me. SO simply put: pressure big toe-you will turn , add a little knee and ankle and you will turn better quicker and more agressively depending on terrain, speed and your strength or technigue. More feet: rotary movement. A post I read a little while ago on Epic was that everything goes back to feet-have quick feet. Rotary, while standing on flat snow rotate your foot and ski back and forth like a windshield wiper. Flat ski/no edging. Also skid a turn or smear a turn on a not fully edged ski (ie. no edge pressure on tails) rotate and on an intermediate hill or steeper you tail will slide out. The is an abundance of info on carving but rotary, smere and slide is very useful tactics in particular situations. This is just basic stuff there are people on Epic that will really go into this for you or just start reading under Insgtruction -then you will have a lot of questions. Welcom great site. I think the best tip I've read on Epic is to "stay connected" while turning, the initiation, middle and finish of the turn are all connected and should be skied that way (credits/NOLO).
post #5 of 17
Thread Starter 
thank you alot pete you have helped me bunches and thank you for welcoming me
post #6 of 17
feet apart ...knees slightly bent... feel slight pressure on boot tongue.... keep feet under body...dont sit back ..now pressure down hill ski using your big toe as a guide "if you want to got to left pressure to right big toe if to right pressure to left big toe" this will cause skiis to come up on edges. .if your skiis are not radically shaped try keeping skiis in a slight wedge...take a few lessons and enjoy
post #7 of 17
If you put more pressure on one ski and tip it (put it on the big toe edge) and you will turn. For example, pressure the right ski, tip it a little to the left and you will turn left.

Always keep your knees slightly bent, and your shins pressing into the cuffs of your boots. Pressing your shin forward (ideally through flexing your ankles) will serve to put the pressure on that ski.

Some twisting of the foot/ski in the direction you want to turn will help as well.
post #8 of 17
I tend to focus on my little toe of my inside foot, not the big toe of my outside foot. But, other than that, this should get you headed in the right direction.

Actually, though, you might consider attending the ESA to really get some excellent coaching.

Alternatively, visit your local resort and get some coaching from a level III certified instructor.
post #9 of 17
Thread Starter 

turning

is it true that you have to put 100% of your weight on your outside ski to turn.thanks
post #10 of 17
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Originally Posted by codyblank
is it true that you have to put 100% of your weight on your outside ski to turn.thanks
Well, I saw your posts over on Real Skiers, so I'll warn you: there are differing opinions on many aspects of skiing, and this is one of them. You may find yourself confused as a result.

It is unequivocally true that you do not need to put 100% of your weight on the outside ski to turn. It is also true that you can, and that in some cases this will result in a more pure turn.

There are a lot of threads here about turning, so you may want to look around a bit.
post #11 of 17
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Originally Posted by ssh
Alternatively, visit your local resort and get some coaching from a level III certified instructor.
or a level I cert or a level II cert!

don't sell great level II certs such as yourself short!
post #12 of 17
Thread Starter 
so the best way to turn is to pressure and not edge as much.what i am getting at is an effective way to turn that is taught by instructors.thanks
post #13 of 17
codyblank, there are lots of ways to turn. Really. You can just turn your feet in the direction you want to go. You can tip your skis and ride the edge to get where you want to go. You can allow your skis to slip sideways and drift to where you want to go. There are many ways to do it.

Where do you live? Would you be willing to take a lesson?

Rusty, thank you. That was very kind. Regardless of who one chooses, however, get out there and take a lesson from someone who has been recognized as knowing what they are doing and how to teach skiing.
post #14 of 17
Cody, "best" depends on what you're trying to accomplish.

Turning your feet to turn (called steering) will allow you to turn sharper and control your speed more. Carving will allow you to go faster, while allowing the skis to do more of the work.

You need to learn to do both, so each skill is at your disposal when called upon.

To your other question; You can turn while your weight is 100 percent on the outside ski, 100 percent on the inside ski, or any pressure variation in between. And you should learn to do so, whether you're carving or steering.

Efficiency dictates predominant weight on the outside ski, and that is normally the ideal distribution, but it would greatly behouve you to learn to vary it, because in real life skiing there will be times when you find yourself in balance positions that are less than ideal, and you need to know how to cope with those situations.

Good skiing is about the expansion and refinement of your skill base. There really is no one right way for all situations in skiing.
post #15 of 17
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Originally Posted by Rick
Good skiing is about the expansion and refinement of your skill base. There really is no one right way for all situations in skiing.
...and that's the absolute truth. That may go in my sig if you let me, Rick! Perfect!
post #16 of 17
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Originally Posted by codyblank
so the best way to turn is to pressure and not edge as much.what i am getting at is an effective way to turn that is taught by instructors.thanks
Instructors will teach you any number of ways to turn, so there isn't one turning style. However, typically when people are generically asking about learning to turn on modern skis they are talking about learning a basic carved turn.

The easiest way I have found to experience a carved turn on modern shaped skis is to slightly lift or lighten my inside foot and tip that foot towards its little toe side strongly. Give that a try and let us know what your experience is.
post #17 of 17
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Originally Posted by ssh
...and that's the absolute truth. That may go in my sig if you let me, Rick! Perfect!
Thanks, Steve, I'd be flattered.
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