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3 ski quiver

post #1 of 125
Thread Starter 
If you were an East Coast skier (who ventured into big mountain territory out west once a year), and you were to pick any two or three skis to make up a quiver, what would they be?
post #2 of 125
Carving - Volkl 6* or Allstar
Crud/Powder - VolklAC4/Volkl Mantra
Small hill ski - Atomic SL11
post #3 of 125
Alternatively, if you're lighter or more of a finesse skier, and decent: Fischer RX8 or Volkl 5*, Fischer AMC 76 or Rossi B-2's or Dynastar Legend 8000's, Volkl Mantra or one of the Fischer mountain series in the 90's, depends on your size since they only come in one length.
post #4 of 125
Thread Starter 
Yeah, I'm definately not light at 190lbs, and with a racing background I'm not sure if finesse would describe me either. I'm definately a hard charging, bump crushing, high speed mad man on the slopes.

This year I'm looking at buying at least two pairs of skis, I'm lloking at the HEad IM 88 in 175 as a softer snow ski and either the metron B5 or the volkl allstar as my hard snow ski.
post #5 of 125

3 piece quiver

How does this sound:

Hard Snow/ice skate Ski:: Fischer RX8

Mid Fat:: Atomic Metron B5

Soft Snow Ski/ HP Fat: Rossi B3, Head IM88 or Volkl Mantra.

Estimated relative useage for New England:

40%;
40%; and
10%
respectively
post #6 of 125
What I'd pick...is what I did pick:

Hard snow: Fischer RX 8

Mid Fat: Legend 8000

Soft snow: Legend 8800
post #7 of 125
Mine looks like this for now:

Volkl 5* (175)
Nordica Top Fuel (178)
Mantra (184)
post #8 of 125
Thread Starter 
You'd go for the RX 8 over the allstar or Worldcup sc?
post #9 of 125
Thread Starter 
How do you like the top fuel? I've yet to find a really solid review of it anywhere.
post #10 of 125
Quote:
Originally Posted by MassLiberal
You'd go for the RX 8 over the allstar or Worldcup sc?
I actually bought the RX 8 before I skied the AllStar (which I liked), but I still prefer the liveliness of the RX 8.

The SC is too turny for my liking. The Race SC would be my 2nd choice behind the RX 8, and is real similar, but a tad stiffer.
post #11 of 125
post #12 of 125
Thread Starter 
God, I'm beginning to think that proforms are the devil, I'm looking at them thinking: well, I was planning on buying two pairs of skis at full price, so if I buy 4 pairs of skis at proform price, I will still be spending the same amount, right? I can justify four pairs of new skis, somehow....

Hi, my name is Erik, and I'm a gear-a-holic.....

It all started when I first slid down a hill with sticks attached to my feet at age 4.........
post #13 of 125
Here is my current 3 ski quiver

-175 Vlokl allstar
-177 Volkl AC4
-184 Volkl Mantra

I think this meets all of your needs. I was at sugarloaf this weekend and I skiied all of these skis.
post #14 of 125
Quote:
Originally Posted by MassLiberal
Yeah, I'm definately not light at 190lbs, and with a racing background I'm not sure if finesse would describe me either. I'm definately a hard charging, bump crushing, high speed mad man on the slopes.

This year I'm looking at buying at least two pairs of skis, I'm lloking at the HEad IM 88 in 175 as a softer snow ski and either the metron B5 or the volkl allstar as my hard snow ski.
IF this is really you??

Buy one pair of skis and exeed your expectations everywhere

Dynastar Legend Pro Rider @ 186

You just have NO IDEA untill you ski them
post #15 of 125
Here is my current 3 ski quiver

-175cm Fischer Worldcup RC
-175 Fischer RX-8
-182 Dynastar Intuitive 74

For more info: http://forums.epicski.com/showthread.php?t=32523&highlight=Barrettscv+Fische r

If your going to have 3 skis, one should be a Laminate construction race machine. The RC (or Fischer Worldcup SC for SL turns) is the best of this breed of ski.

Cheers,

Barrettscv
post #16 of 125
Quote:
Originally Posted by kosackthrower
Here is my current 3 ski quiver

-175 Vlokl allstar
-177 Volkl AC4
-184 Volkl Mantra

I think this meets all of your needs. I was at sugarloaf this weekend and I skiied all of these skis.
What is your height and weight? I was able to demo the AC4 in a 177cm but I couldn't get my hands on the 184cm.
post #17 of 125
Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach13
I actually bought the RX 8 before I skied the AllStar (which I liked), but I still prefer the liveliness of the RX 8.

The SC is too turny for my liking. The Race SC would be my 2nd choice behind the RX 8, and is real similar, but a tad stiffer.
Given his weight and claimed skiing style, as well as the info I got from the guys at the Ski Depot, the Race SC is not enough ski for him. WC SC yes, but the folks up in Jay, ME described the Race SC as a NASTAR-only race ski. I've never skied the Race SC, but have skied the RX-8 and if the guys at the Ski Depot were correct, the RX-8 is more ski, not less than the Race SC.
post #18 of 125
Thread Starter 
Maine, eh? where abouts? I grew up skiing at sugarloaf, and picked my college based on proximity to that mountain (colby).

I guess that explains my love of icy and cold conditions as well as epic eastern powder days in the trees (Source of denial?)

I'm more interested in the rc's, I just love ripping short rad turns, getting to the bottom of a long run with my quads burning like I just skied bottomless on tele's. However, I was thinking about the B5's as a compromise between a mid fat and a slalom style turner, but was worried that the foam core wouldn't hold up to getting run through the trees constant
post #19 of 125
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by bjohansson
Given his weight and claimed skiing style.
Ha! I love that there are always questions asked about what other people claim on boards! Yes, it's funny, more often than not people are full of sh**, but oh well, I guess I would only be hurting myself if I was lying, no? Hopefully we can meet up sometime and take a couple of runs at the loaf, heck, I'll even show you some of the sneaky sneaky tree lines we cleared in college.....
post #20 of 125
At 190 lb, you have no business on a pair of 175 im88. Get the 186, or look at a different ski if you need something shorter. Even at that length, they are fine (great) in bumps and trees, they are pretty light and lively for a wood/metal sandwich ski. The length is absolutely nessisary if you plan on charging anything, 175's just dont' cut it. I would avoid heavy, lifted bindings on them, I've put P18's on mine and they are very nice.

As for a three ski quiver, I would go:

179 Public Enemy, P18. Bumps, trees, mixed powder, hitting rocks.
186 im88, P18. All around (everything), keep sharp and in good shape.
193 Big Daddy, S916, alpine trekkers+skins. Powder, touring.

I would rather have 3 skis with some variety but with alot of overlap, and that are all good all around in soft snow. I couldn't justify owning a narrow carving ski if I only had 3 skis. The heads will carve ice/groomers if needed (and if sharp), but I don't find myself going out and sking sheet ice too often.
post #21 of 125
My current active quiver is:

Ice/hard snow - Legend 8000 184cm
Softer snow - Mantra 184cm

and I will be adding something around 105mm+ at the start of next season for the really soft snow days
post #22 of 125
Thread Starter 
Good to hear from you Highway Star. I was thinking the same thing. where do you have your head's mounted?
post #23 of 125
On the line, they are fine.
post #24 of 125
Atomic Metron:B5 @ 162
Head i.M 88. @ 175

or

Head i.SuperShape @ 165
Dynastar Legend 8000 @ 172
Head i.M 88 @ 175

You have probably 30-40lbs on me though so you should go longer in Legend and probably the Head if you do a lot of deep powder skiing.
post #25 of 125

3 Ski Quiver... or 4, maybe 5... aaahh... what the Hell... 6...

My personal favorites:

Firm to hard snow carving and bumps:

Nordica SUV 14 XBS, 180 cm. (actually measures closer to 178 cm.) Does what something like a Volkl 6 Star or Allstar does at speed in hard conditions, with noticeably less weight and effort, nice combination of snap and smoothness, solid, terrific on hard snow, nimble in bumps, more forgiving, especially in soft snow. Has a simpler, more reliable and significantly more adjustable integration system for Marker bindings. Not to mention that for some reason, it tends to run about $50-$100 less expensive.

Generally softer snow; average powder (few inches, up to a little over a foot) skied-up crud, all around, all mountain, off-piste most of the time:

Blizzard Sigma XXL, 181 cm. One of the best carvey mid-fats out there. Combines the solidity of a good Austrian wood ski with some of the forgiveness of a lighter French ski. Fun in powder and crud, not bad in moderate-sized bumps, just enough shape and stiffness to be decent on soft to semi-firm groomers. Balanced 50-50 carve-float, basically a carving ski for off-piste, versatility without sacrificing too much performance at speed. I don't believe in a "one ski quiver" but this ski is about as close to it as you'll probably find. The Volkl AC4, Atomic Metron M:EX are great ones in this category, also a buddy of mine loves the K2 Apache Outlaw. But as far as I know, for the moment, most of these are still too new to find any real steal deals on them yet.

D-Dee-Deeeeeply serious ka-pow-wow:

Fischer Big Stix 106, 180 cm. (actually measures 179 cm) Pure powder skis don't need to be technically sophisticated, and they aren't. I like the liveliness of wood, and at least some shape. As expected, no versatility; beware of anything firm. It's a specialty ski that's up to it's billing; skis feet of pow as easily as feet of God-groomed. Unless you live in a western ski town, you probably won't use it enough to be worthwhile to buy, but there are usually all kinds of good boards in this catagory for rent.

A good versatile quiver is analgous to good snow; quantity has a quailty all its own... 8-)
post #26 of 125
For the groomers and hard snow:
Short turns - Fischer WC SC (own 165 cm 13-m Radius) or maybe Atomic SL11 (hear-say) It's great fun to make a lot of turns and feel the gs and still be able to carry some speed without feeling out-of-control. These babies can grip and rip.

Long turns - A nice SG ski like my old Kästle RX National Team SGs (208 cm about 50-m radius). They don't complain when you go straight down the fall line and have phenomenal grip whey you crank out high speed LR turns, yet they can still make pretty sharp turns when pressed to it (not that much fun in moguls though).

West:

Same skis for groomers, but for deep powder you will want something fat and LR for the wide-open deep powder skiing. Don't have enough experience to really say what though.

But why stop at three?

You also need something like a Salomon Equipe SC that will ahve instant response and also carve nice beautiful railroad tracks at slower speeds.

Then you will want something like an SXB5 or SX11 for groomers when you can't decide between SL or GS, and don't want to have to switch skis.

Five skis should be enough .
post #27 of 125
Thread Starter 
well, if I had my way I'd have at least 6- 8 alpine/ at skis, and 4 different tele skis.
post #28 of 125
Thread Starter 
Okay, I bought the IM 88, so all set there, now all I need is a carver, I have the Allstar on hold in a 168 and `75, but I'm also interested in the RX8, does anyone ski it in a 170, and if so what do you think?
post #29 of 125
Quote:
Originally Posted by MTT
IF this is really you??

Buy one pair of skis and exeed your expectations everywhere

Dynastar Legend Pro Rider @ 186

You just have NO IDEA untill you ski them
I grew up skiing VT. I would second the LP for great edge hold on a wider ski.

But I would add Volkl 6 stars (168) or similar for white ice kinda days or playing in the bumps.

I have the 6 stars in 168 and the LP in 194. 194 would be a little long for back east.
post #30 of 125
The RX8 in a 170 is a great in-bounds resort all-mountain ski for every condition where you wouldn't want to be skiing the 88s.

They are turny and hook up instantly, so if thats not your thing you probably don't want them. If you wan't something that turns a bit longer the Nordica SpeedMachine 16.1 is an awesome carving machine.
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