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Who here is sick of threads complaining about snowboarders?

post #1 of 21
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C'mon people. Skier vs. snowboarder animosity is so 1992.

It's a dead horse. Stop kicking it.
post #2 of 21

Sick of Snowboarder Complaints

I've been on snow all of my life. Love it. Love people who love it. don't like people who are biased because of what others ride. In the 60's it was the long thong strappers, in the 70's it was the short ski's suck, in the 80's it was the flourescents and spiked hair, in the 90's it was the boarders. Enough already. If you got all that energy to waste on bias and devision find a real war to fight, there are plenty of them around.
post #3 of 21
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Originally Posted by boarderline
C'mon people. Skier vs. snowboarder animosity is so 1992.

It's a dead horse. Stop kicking it.
Snowboarders? Don't ya mean hillfrogs?
post #4 of 21
Hmmmm... Perhaps it's time for me to activate the snowboarding forums...
post #5 of 21
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Originally Posted by boarderline
C'mon people. Skier vs. snowboarder animosity is so 1992.

It's a dead horse. Stop kicking it.
You're right! So why does it seem that this thread is trying to revive the dead horse?

Nothing to see here people.......Move along!
post #6 of 21
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Originally Posted by Ski2die
I've been on snow all of my life. Love it. Love people who love it. don't like people who are biased because of what others ride. In the 60's it was the long thong strappers, in the 70's it was the short ski's suck, in the 80's it was the flourescents and spiked hair, in the 90's it was the boarders. Enough already. If you got all that energy to waste on bias and devision find a real war to fight, there are plenty of them around.
Well we HAVE to keep picking on boarders because the industry hasn't given us anybody NEW to pick on in the 2000's.....

L
post #7 of 21
not me- one of my jr racers got taken out by the absolute prototypical young male rider this weekend. broken leg- ruined the season for a very good young racer.

this has NEVER happened with a skier hitting a racer in my group but has happened at least 5 times in the last 3-4 years- the hill was not crowded- this is totally inexcusable. I don't care if these lads are a very small percentage of the population , I HATE having them on the hill.

if you want us to stop the flak- figure out how to make this stop.

Merry Christmas.
post #8 of 21
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Originally Posted by oldtimer
not me- one of my jr racers got taken out by the absolute prototypical young male rider this weekend. broken leg- ruined the season for a very good young racer.

this has NEVER happened with a skier hitting a racer in my group but has happened at least 5 times in the last 3-4 years- the hill was not crowded- this is totally inexcusable. I don't care if these lads are a very small percentage of the population , I HATE having them on the hill.

if you want us to stop the flak- figure out how to make this stop.

Merry Christmas.
This kinda makes me think about something.... and this isn't a "snowboarders suck" post. But, do you think one of the reasons snowboarders are proportionally as a population more out of control, etc is because many have shunned any formal lessons/instruction as being "lame" or a "sign of weakness"? I have some friends who board, and while they're good guys, they basically just strapped on on a board a tumbled down the hill til they got it. Now they can go fast, jump, etc, but I'm sure if you asked any snowboard instructor, etc, they'd say their technique is seriously lacking. The guys I'm talking about would probably at least stop and say they were sorry and see if there was anything to do, but it doesn't negate the fact that sooner or later I'm sure they're gonna plow into someone.
post #9 of 21
I've been hit twice by skiers in 30 years, both inexperienced skiers and very polite and sorry. Hit 4 times in the last 5 years by knuckledraggers two apologized and two swore at me even though it was their fault. The last one ended my season (3 cracked ribs). Also tired of having expert/advanced terrain ruined by low talent riders. Have no quarrel with good riders who aren't punks.
post #10 of 21

Who here is sick of threads complaining about snowboarders?

I am. I- jokingly- call knuckeldragger my boarders friends and they smile at me like I were a dinosaurs with my two planks. End of it.
The truth is, I don't care what's on someone feet. But I do care what's IN everyone heads.
post #11 of 21
This thread should be frozen until May 2006. Then we can come back to it and see if the "I hate snowboarders" nonsense has changed to "I hate kids on twintips".

The "problems" that many here use as justifications for their anti-snowboarder attitudes can be attributed, for the most part, to the demographic most attracted to snowboarding. The same demographic that has begun to gravitate back towards skiing...but this time, they're skiing backwards. :

I have a strong belief that this season will see an increase in the # of collisions and near-misses between the twintip crowd and the GP, especially on the trails that feed the terrain parks. Only time will tell, of course.

In the meantime, get off your high horses...they're dead anyway.
post #12 of 21
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Originally Posted by iskitoofast4u
This thread should be frozen until May 2006. Then we can come back to it and see if the "I hate snowboarders" nonsense has changed to "I hate kids on twintips".

The "problems" that many here use as justifications for their anti-snowboarder attitudes can be attributed, for the most part, to the demographic most attracted to snowboarding. The same demographic that has begun to gravitate back towards skiing...but this time, they're skiing backwards. :

I have a strong belief that this season will see an increase in the # of collisions and near-misses between the twintip crowd and the GP, especially on the trails that feed the terrain parks. Only time will tell, of course.

In the meantime, get off your high horses...they're dead anyway.
Yeah, the snowboarders hitting skiers argument is lame, sure no one runs into skiers or borders on ski's. That never happens.
Ask the 60 year old snowboarder who was killed by a out of control speed skier at Breck.
Ask CR Johnson about getting hit by skiers, if he ever comes out of his coma.
post #13 of 21
Who here is sick of threads complaining about...threads?
post #14 of 21
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Originally Posted by ssh
Hmmmm... Perhaps it's time for me to activate the snowboarding forums...
Activated it.

I think the bottom line is that education and relationship will address most of these issues. I don't like anyone who is out of control or obnoxious. It doesn't matter what's on their feet.
post #15 of 21
I concur with the demographic comment there iskitoofast4u, it's no different to the young drivers who believe they are both bullet-proof & expert drivers from the moment they pass their driving test. I could also assume that with experience and maturity that these people simply merge into the general rider population and no longer pose a threat to others. It isn't to say that this is limited to boarders and/or the twin-tip brigades - it follows that many immature males will think with testosterone rather than their brain cells and present problems.

That said, we can all sit here and type with maturity but I imagine that there are times where bravo or a lack of thought can put anyone of us in a similar position of stupidity. Let's hope that these times don't account for an injury to ourselves and to a greater degree - others around us.
post #16 of 21
Making fun of snowboarders, park rats, and telemarkers will never get old Particularly since I can count many of my best friends in those groups.
post #17 of 21
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Originally Posted by ssh
Hmmmm... Perhaps it's time for me to activate the snowboarding forums...
yes, lets seperate them so they may not quarrel.
general forums should be good for both.
lets create a seperate resorts forum too so we can talk about Alta, Deer Valley, and Taos as well as MRG in that one.

I do bothm, ski mostly, and dont understand the us v. them attitude.
some of my best friends ride.
post #18 of 21
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Originally Posted by iskitoofast4u
This thread should be frozen until May 2006. Then we can come back to it and see if the "I hate snowboarders" nonsense has changed to "I hate kids on twintips".

The "problems" that many here use as justifications for their anti-snowboarder attitudes can be attributed, for the most part, to the demographic most attracted to snowboarding. The same demographic that has begun to gravitate back towards skiing...but this time, they're skiing backwards. :

I have a strong belief that this season will see an increase in the # of collisions and near-misses between the twintip crowd and the GP, especially on the trails that feed the terrain parks. Only time will tell, of course.

In the meantime, get off your high horses...they're dead anyway.
Well-said, its the sh*tty attitude not whats on their feet. Skied 5 days last week in Beaver Creek, no problems at all except one newbie boarder going heel-side, he stopped and apologized. Its the "tude".......The twin tips won't change a thing (although maybe they'll be less plowed snow on the steeps)
post #19 of 21
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Originally Posted by Finndog
Well-said, its the sh*tty attitude not whats on their feet. Skied 5 days last week in Beaver Creek, no problems at all except one newbie boarder going heel-side, he stopped and apologized. Its the "tude".......The twin tips won't change a thing (although maybe they'll be less plowed snow on the steeps)
That's my point, Finndog. It's has nothing to do with equipment and everything to do with age, & experience. As SSH said, education and relationship will address these issues. To that, I'll add experience.

I do think that, for the most part, all three of those things must be present for one to be an ambassador of good will as opposed to a punk w/ an attitude. Case in point: The teenagers who, despite growing up on the mountain and being exposed to good hill etiquette, still act like punks. They're simply immature. Once they mature, however, the odds are they'll have better on-hill manners then their inexperienced counterparts.

Everyone has to start at the bottom, guys. Some folks don't learn until later in life what you or I learned before the age of 10. In the end, however, we all learn the same way: Somebody in the know takes us under their wing and shows us the path.

The slopes will be civil as long as that wing is broad and offers shelter to all who need it. Once the "wing" becomes a right cross/left hook combo, however, well it's a slippery slope from that point on!
post #20 of 21

I just had to

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Originally Posted by ssh
Activated it.

I think the bottom line is that education and relationship will address most of these issues. I don't like anyone who is out of control or obnoxious. It doesn't matter what's on their feet.
Amen. I wasn't going to post to this thread because I posted on the original thread how silly this sort of animosity is. I saw the thread at the top again today aqnd figured if I posted here at least it would keep the two threads together so people wouldn't think there was a bias here. The inference I get when I read the code of responsibility is that obnoxiousness on the hill is counter to the spirit of the code/rules of skiing.
post #21 of 21
Bigotry comes in all forms. That's the real problem.
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