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Helllooo Mr. Chad Fleischer, Mr. OLN, Mr. Producer @OLN

post #1 of 26
Thread Starter 
Hi,

Chad Fleischer sucks. He's only got negative comments to say about every ski racer, except the American's. Then, when the American's come down he raves about how great they're doing and they, DNF, fall, or have slow times, unless Bode wins.

He talks about how crappy/slow a racer is doing, but the racer's split time is in the lead.

Also, to Mr. OLN Producer, please repeat the skiing programs like you do Ted Nugent's Excellent Hunting Adventures, 20 times a day.
post #2 of 26
In defense of Chad, ski racing isn't the easiest sport to call. He does miss the splits more often than not, but his comments aren't nearly as inane as those from a lot of other commentators. Would you prefer Matt Laurer?

I like the coverage I've seen so far. Less Pam Fletcher fluff, less Bode on the Bus, and less meaningless segways and tie-ins to unrelated sports. The Winter Revolution was less about winter sports than graphics design. I much prefer the stripped-down version they had in the past.
post #3 of 26
Sincs i can't get OLN, I am lucky to get a hour program over the weekend on NBC.....I would gladly take the innane commentary for some more race programs. The mute button works just fine on my TV
post #4 of 26
I didn't think Chad was too far off the mark. Italy and Canada are looking strong. Herman M. is sandbagging it till the Olympics. Alot of DNF's for the Americans. Darren R. is holding it together for us. We need a 24/7 SKI-TV channel. Movies,races,instruction,resort info. No Rap and flippy-twisty crap.
post #5 of 26
I watched OLN Sunday and was pleasantly surprised that they actually showed the races scheduled and very little time was spent on 'human interest' fluff. I guess with less emphasis on skiing they aren't spending their money overproducing the ski racing programs like they did last year.
post #6 of 26

....

my $.01...
I think one can catch him during a run in a little over-enthusiastic mode, but overall I think he's pretty fair and informative. Name someone who doesn't have a personal opinion or two..... Of course, when talking about present-day and Past...a lot of us grew up with Bob Beattie..who was great, but he had his moments too. IMO, I enjoy hearing someone talk not only about the time through 100% of the run, but the technique specifics. I can think of several more technical toys(video *angles) that I would like to see...in replays, where even Fleischer would be able to see where a skier loses or makes up time....!..(ala Beaver Creek runs).
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Originally Posted by slider
We need a 24/7 SKI-TV channel
...Wow, no truer words have ever been spoken...
post #7 of 26
Maybe you would prefer some hot babe in a tight sweater who knows jack about skiing but sure is easy to look at. Where's AL Trautwig when you need him!
post #8 of 26
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Originally Posted by Toadman
Maybe you would prefer some hot babe in a tight sweater who knows jack about skiing but sure is easy to look at.
They're all busy being NFL sideline reporters.
post #9 of 26
Can't wait till February. I hope the coverage is good.
post #10 of 26
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Originally Posted by Toadman
Maybe you would prefer some hot babe in a tight sweater who knows jack about skiing but sure is easy to look at. Where's AL Trautwig when you need him!
Where's Suzi Chapstick?
post #11 of 26

Replays

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Originally Posted by skierzzzzzz
Hi,
Also, to Mr. OLN Producer, please repeat the skiing programs like you do Ted Nugent's Excellent Hunting Adventures, 20 times a day.
I agree here. If you miss the first run on Sunday, they replay Monday afternoon @ 4. If you do not have Tivo or forget to set your VCR for these two days, you're sunk. However, you can watch bullriding just about any hour of the day.

Last season, they would list replays of the Winter Revolution only to show back to back to back episodes of The Wackiest Outdoor Sports Moments.

Weird network.
post #12 of 26
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Originally Posted by Toadman
Maybe you would prefer some hot babe in a tight sweater who knows jack about skiing but sure is easy to look at. Where's AL Trautwig when you need him!
He's taking a meeting with Kirsten Gum in the production trailer.
post #13 of 26
I don't think Chad Fleischer is particularly bad.

The one I like the best is actually Brian Williams -- not the slick NBC anchor, but the avuncular CBC guy who's their primary Olympic commentator. His background isn't skiing, but sports commentary. He's good at fitting in bits of interesting information, rather than the lame, "Oh, he looks like he's really trying to go fast here!" that a lot of people slip into.

Incidentally, I assume he has a better information source than the stuff on CBC's website. It's full of random, inaccurate factoids (including a photo of "France's Caroline Lalive in a tuck position.")
post #14 of 26
I don't know which is crazier......1800# bull trying to stomp your butt or 80 mph down an Ice run.:
post #15 of 26
Thread Starter 
So, why can't they get an announcer who has positive things to say about the ski racers instead of constant criticism.

There was one racer who was ripping a run and Chad just blasted him then appreared surprised when the racer was actually in the lead.
post #16 of 26
There was one racer who was ripping a run and Chad just blasted him then appreared surprised when the racer was actually in the lead.

Saw that race. He was all over the course and had poor technique. I was as surprises as Chad. Hey,that's ski racing.
post #17 of 26
There's a reason "commentary" and "criticism" are often used interchangeably. It's sort of difficult (not to mention bland) to say anything about a performance if you're limited to compliments.

The worst announcer I've heard recently was a woman (don't remember who, which is merciful for her sake) who called one of the women's races at Lake Louise on OLN, when most of the show was at Beaver Creek. "She's really going for it ... She's just *so* aggressive ... Wow, is she going for it ... You have to go for it if you want to win ... To be fast you have to go for it ... She is really aggressive."
post #18 of 26
One other thing on split times (and this may be my own idiosyncratic view): they're not as meaningful as they might seem. They show when a racer breaks a particular arbitrary straight line across the course that the racer doesn't even see. A racer's own line at that particular place could make him appear farther ahead or behind than he "really" is.
post #19 of 26
Give me Tood Brooker over Chad Fleischer.
post #20 of 26
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by jstraw
Give me Tood Brooker over Chad Fleischer.
Word!

Chad's just a disgruntled, old, has been.
post #21 of 26
At least Chad has been there. How many can say the same thing?

No complaints about Steve Porino?
post #22 of 26
bump.

Sorry if this has been discussed to death somewhere else.

Did anybody else want to pull their hair out listening to NBC's commentary on the (alpine) olympics? I'm not sure if NBC or todd brooker/tim ryan deserve the blame but I felt like the vast majority of the commentary was absolute fluff and nothing more. These guys would talk for 3/4 of a downhill run about each racer's achievements over the past 15 years. Occasionally they would read a split time if they weren't busy yakking about something other than the actual race taking place. Considering Brooker was a former downhiller he really didn't lend much insight into the finer details of the downhill course they were on... Also, correct me if I'm wrong but I didn't hear them mention a single radar speed of a racer. I have a strong suspicion that NBC just wanted to keep the maximum number of non-skifan viewers watching ads until the next installment of figure skating came on and for this reason they intentionally dumbed down the announcing.

I understand that Steve and Chad get carried away naming every single turn and jump on every course and using 15 superlatives per racer per run. In their defense though, good/fast skiing is hard to definitively spot due to the various styles world cuppers successfully employ. A textbook austrian carve isn't necessarily the fastest these days. But when somebody hits a turn really late or dumps a bunch of speed that is typically easier to spot - and they are quick to jump on it. I would take Chad and Steve any day over the non-existant coverage we got for these olympics.

/rant off
post #23 of 26
Where's AL Trautwig when you need him![/quote]

I'll second that
post #24 of 26
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Originally Posted by slider
. We need a 24/7 SKI-TV channel.
That's a good Idea!
They have a Golf Channel and I'd rather watch Jello set, than golf.
post #25 of 26
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Originally Posted by Treewell
Where's AL Trautwig when you need him!
I'll second that[/quote]

Forget Al, give us Paul Sherwin and Phil Ligget
(naw, Al's allright)
post #26 of 26
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Originally Posted by slider
We need a 24/7 SKI-TV channel. Movies,races,instruction,resort info. No Rap and flippy-twisty crap.
If you get DirecTv, you get OLN, and if you want to pay extra, you can get a bunch of RSN channels (resort sports network - the same channels you get in the local hotels at the ski resorts that show non stop skiing)
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