The new scarve/J-turn variation?
The new scarve/J-turn variation?
The spivot sounds like a combination of a scarve/skarve and a J turn.
The spivot seems especially appropriate technique for certain turny gates where true arc to arc turns can't be achieved with traditional 21m turn radius GS skis. Also as Slatz mentioned the spivot could also be a catch up technique in your race technique quiver.
When is the spivot an appropriate technique in a slalom course?
From Bode Miller interview in 1/04 at training camp in Flachau in Racer Ready magazine. http://mysnowsports.com/main_cpg/For...opic/p=61.html
"Asked about the technique at the start of the turn, known as pitching, Miller explains: “It’s just when you slide your skis sideways and are redirecting into the turn. It’s actively re-directing the skis, as opposed to letting them carve to redirect themselves. And you do it to get rid of speed that you don’t want. And you do it to cut off line. You do it before you have the skis heavily weighted. It’s much easier obviously. If you have them weighted and you chuck them sideways and displace a huge amount of snow and you slow down a lot."
Originally Posted by jamesk
The Stivot is a steering pivot move where the skis are allowed to drift out as you steer into the new turn then lock the edges and stand on the pressure- kind of a new-school float-touch-sting.
I like the float-touch-sting metaphor as that is what Thomas Grandi appeared to be doing at Alta Badia on OLN.
Float-touch-sting article 2001 Ski magazine article excerpt "Out With the Old, In With the New: Part II, Step 7" with photos by Ron LeMaster http://www.skimag.com/skimag/instruc...325559,00.html
New: TIGHTER IS FASTER
MIKE: Less vertical distance between gates, better skis and stronger racers changed the game. Now the best competitors can take a tighter line--seen above. We can blast through a gate instead of passing around it, knowing it will break away (A). The line to the next gate is lower and closer to the gate (B). We still start turns very early (C), but the direction change happens with an earlier carve and over a shorter arc. There is virtually no skid (D). This line, which once seemed impossible, now works (provided we are strong enough to withstand the increased G-forces) because we have more confidence in the skis' ability to hold (E).
Photo by Ron LeMaster
Old: STAY HIGH AND ROUND
STU: Back when GS skis were 210 cm long with little sidecut, there was a saying: "float, touch, sting." The fastest way between two points was not a straight line. Smooth, round turns were considered fastest, even if we traveled a longer distance. We stepped uphill to get a higher angle of attack on the gate below (2). We began turns on the "rise line" directly above the turning pole (3). We tried to get the direction change more or less completed before we reached the gate (4), so we "came up under it" in the best position to attack the next gate (5).
Mike Rogan is an instructional contributor for SKI Magazine, a member of the PSIA Alpine Demonstration Team, an instructor at Hunter Mountain, N.Y., and ski school director at Portillo in Chile.
Originally Posted by JohnH
there is a photo sequence of Bode that I've seen here on epic a few times recently, that shows it quite well.
Are you talking about the photos from this Ski Magazine article "Bode's Big Secret" http://www.skimag.com/skimag/instruc...29772,00.html?
"Bode's secret lies in what his body does during the transition. Although hard to see in the montage, Bode's center of gravity takes a more direct line down the hill through the transition than his feet do. Even though his center of gravity is behind his feet in the transition, Bode uses his remarkable agility and balance to catch up with his feet by the time he starts to carve, thereby putting him in balance over the forebody of his ski (6 and 7)."
Originally Posted by SLATZ
As I said in another thread, WC snowboarders started using this in about 96 or 97. As GS courses became more turny due to shaped skis it became the move of choice for steep, turny gates. Ron LeMaster talked about it at the 2001 USSCA Acadamy. He simply referred to it as "cutting off the top of the turn".
Does this Ron LeMaster/presentation (USSCA National Academy - Phil McNichol & Ron Le Master, May 2002) http://www.ronlemaster.com/presentat...l-LeMaster.pdf
especially pages 9-10 (photo sequences on p.10) illustrate what you were talking about.
* How is the amount of initial pivot going into the turn affected by pitch, turn radius, turn shape, other factors
Slatz - Benjamin Raich (about 15 minutes into the program) struggled on one gate where the commentator mentioned that Raich "got a little too broke at the waist and hooked up the skis on the high side" which led to Raich skiing out of the course in past races.
Originally Posted by SoftSnowGuy
What's new is this "stivot" term. Why do we need a new term for a pre carve redirection? I'll watch OLN this afternoon and see if Chad is claiming some type of subtle difference between a pivot and a stivot. If a difference does exist, I doubt it's of great significance. From the term I'm guessing it has something to do with the presence of pressure during the redirection, as occurs when steering. I'll post again after the race.
What difference is there between a pivot and a stivot?
Is there an article to go with the photo?