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post #1 of 17
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Hey all. New to the forum, and this is my first post. I searched a bit for the answer to my question, but didn't find what I was looking for.

I'm looking to add a pair of skis this year and I am looking for a recommendation. I am a relatively big guy, so it is hard to go with industry reviews, as the testers always weigh about 175# or less.

So here is my story:
I'm 25 years old, 6'3", 245 lbs (planning to lose some of that soon, so lets say 225-245)

I've plateaued over the past few years, until I started skiing regularly with my girlfriend, who is an AWESOME skiier. I see few people skiing better than she on any given day, and by skiing with her, she is teaching me a LOT and helping me push my comfort-zone a lot too.

I am just now learning the beauty of well-carved turns on groomers (as opposed to sliding). I am hitting little and not-steep bumps right now and enjoying those, but lose all confidence and ability when I get on steeps and/or powder/crud-covered bumps.

I am not concerned with groomers, I don't really care about them. I only ski on Dynastar 4x4's (oops, forgot which ones, but they are around 4 years old) right now, and those serve fine for days where groomers are all that are in store.

We ski Arapahoe Basin about 90% of the time, so I'll say again that I don't care that much about groomers because there are usually only about 3 runs groomed at A-Basin. Basically, i want a ski that is going to work well for me in powder and crud, for when the East wall opens. The 4x4s sink right down and I have to say that I almost dread powder right now, and that's just wrong.

So, big guy wants something to be more comfortable in powder/crud and maybe maneuver in some bumps now and then.

I'm a teacher, so I have to say that ski purchases for me are a once every few years type of thing (I'm not rich is what I am saying), so getting the right planks is huge, as they won't be replaced for probably 4 years. I already have mediocre all-mountain skis, so I'm not looking for a do-everything deal.

I hope I have provided all of the info you need to help me find what I need. I am currently eyeing up Volkl Mantras, Solomon 1080 Guns, and maybe Rossignol B3 or K2 Apache Cheifs.

Thoughts? Big thanks in advance!!
post #2 of 17
Think about Dynastar Legend 8000's in a 184.
post #3 of 17
I'll second the 8000 as a great choice, and also suggest a few others.
  • Rossi B3
  • Fischer AMC 79
  • Nordica Nitrous
I'd also strongly suggest that you stay away from fat skis for a couple of years. If you absolutely, had to have a fat(ter) ski, the K2 Outlaw would be a reasonable choice.

SJ
post #4 of 17
Thread Starter 

why should I stay away from fats?

Just curious. I may have undersold my abilities... why should I stay away from fat skis?
post #5 of 17
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Originally Posted by thundercleese
Just curious. I may have undersold my abilities... why should I stay away from fat skis?
If you want a great ski for a heavier guy that is also a bargain consider the Volant Machete SIN in a 185cm. Great on-piste or off-piste and possibly the best crud-buster ever made. It's major weakness is short turns, but that should not be a hindrance considering where and how you ski.

http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-Volant-Machete-Sin-Freeride-Skis-185cm_W0QQitemZ8737964206QQcategoryZ62184QQssPageN ameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

the Head Monster 75 in a 185cm can also be a great ski for the above requirements.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8737581010&rd=1&sspage name=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8737581010&rd=1&sspage name=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1

Cheers,

Barrettscv
post #6 of 17
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Originally Posted by thundercleese
Just curious. I may have undersold my abilities... why should I stay away from fat skis?
Fat skis work nicely in deeper snow but require more effort and/or edge angle to make quick turns when you are on the snow as opoosed to in or under it. They are OK if you want to bias your performance toward deeper snow but any good midfat is a more versatile choice, especially when skill development is the goal.

SJ
post #7 of 17
Volkl Mantra 191cm - a stiff ski, maybe too stiff for you, but it's great everywhere - might be a bit too stiff for everyday powder so mount it back 1.5cm's off the factory line and it performs much better in the soft - great all around ski (hard/soft snow/everyday out West)

Volkl Gotama 190 cm - softer, wider ski than Mantra but a smaller running length and easy to turn despite the fatter waist and tail.....a better all powder choice and wider platform means better float for a bigger guy

189 Seth Vicious - wide ski but progressive sidecut makes it good everywhere....it's much less stiff than the Mantra so this could ultimately be your weapon of choice if you truly are an intermediate

at your height/weight, you can run a wider ski on groomers and still be fine getting it to carve

demo, demo, demo before you buy
post #8 of 17
I'm 6'4" 250 or so and ski the Legend 8800, Legend 8000, and the Fischer RX 8. Any of these skis will support your size easily and are all great skis.

I think it all comes down to what you're looking for in the ski of your choice. In the fatter one ski category, I think the 8800 and the Mantra are the top choices. In the mid fat category, I'd recommend you try either the 8000 or one of the Nordica Hot Rod models (Nitrous or Top Fuel).
post #9 of 17
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Originally Posted by Coach13
I'm 6'4" 250 or so and ski the Legend 8800, Legend 8000, and the Fischer RX 8. Any of these skis will support your size easily and are all great skis.

I think it all comes down to what you're looking for in the ski of your choice. In the fatter one ski category, I think the 8800 and the Mantra are the top choices. In the mid fat category, I'd recommend you try either the 8000 or one of the Nordica Hot Rod models (Nitrous or Top Fuel).
Coach13...... What size do you ski in the Legend 8800, Legend 8000, and the RX8? (I'm just curious)
post #10 of 17
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Originally Posted by Atown313
Coach13...... What size do you ski in the Legend 8800, Legend 8000, and the RX8? (I'm just curious)
8800-188cm
8000-184cm
RX 8-180cm

I actually have a 2nd pair of RX 8's in a 175cm that I'm going to mount up and ski soon. The 180cm length makes the RX 8 a more versatile ski, but now that I ski it exclusively on hardpack, I'm going down one size in that ski.

As a side note. The 8800 and the 8000 both seem to me to ski shorter than their listed lengths.
post #11 of 17
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Originally Posted by Coach13
8800-188cm
8000-184cm
RX 8-180cm

I actually have a 2nd pair of RX 8's in a 175cm that I'm going to mount up and ski soon. The 180cm length makes the RX 8 a more versatile ski, but now that I ski it exclusively on hardpack, I'm going down one size in that ski.

As a side note. The 8800 and the 8000 both seem to me to ski shorter than their listed lengths.
Thanks for the reply!
post #12 of 17
Hey welcome,

I've asked this ? before and over the last year or so I've just settled (arrived today) on the Atomic M:10 in 178cm. I demoed numerous skis last year and this one was by far the best for me, 6'2" 270 level 6-7 skier. I was previously a K2 fan (still a great ski), but after trying the M:10 that is all I wanted to be on, but as you'll find and I totally agree, demo as many as you can and pick the one that you keep wanting to get back on.....

Enjoy
post #13 of 17
Thread Starter 

thanks all!

Thanks for the tips, folks.
I'm going to spend some time demoing and use your suggestions as a base and go from there. I appreciate all of the help!
post #14 of 17
thundercleese, welcome to EpicSki!

You could also check with Dennis at Christy Sport in Boulder for demos. He can put you on the Rossis, Atomics, and others. He also has the Nordicas, and you may like the Top Fuels and/or the Nitrous.
post #15 of 17
I'm 6'3" 260 lbs, level 7 skiier. I like the groomers and have started to ski fresh and tracked powder. I went through the same decision as you, last year, and tested everything I could (Dynastar 4800, 8000, 8800; Volkl 724 pro, 5 Star, 6 Star, Karma; K2 Recon, Atomic SX11, M10, M11?; Solomon Pocket Rocket, Xtra Hot; Rossignol Scratch BC, B2, B3).

I bought the Volkl 5 Star in a 175 (the year before) and the Rossignol B3 in a 178 this year. I absolutely love the B3! I can make it carve as well as my 5 Stars which is amazing and fun. The extra float is welcome anytime. The 5 Stars are a chore to ski in anything over 8 inches of snow but they are effortless carvers on the hardpack.

As SquawMan said heavy guys can get the wide skis to carve. This has been the case with the B3s. When demoing in hardpack conditions, the techs always warned me that the fat skis would not perform well. I found that they carved equally as well as skinnier skis but they could hold a stable edge in packed powder as well. All the skinier skis had to find the bottom before they would turn. The wider the ski the better. I didn't know how great it could feel actually skiing on the snow instead of the ice. I would get the 185s if I lived in the mountains for more stability at speed and GS style turns. I ski primarily in the Midwest but I tested and bought the 178s at Steamboat. They are great for tight turns and moderate to high speeds.

For the next ski, I'm looking at the '04/05 B3 in a 195 to compliment my 178s (95 waist and you can get them pretty cheap), the Mantra in a 191, or the Gotama in a 190. I want to demo the Mantra and Gotama at Copper this year before I buy anything.

Good luck!
post #16 of 17
Thread Starter 

Decided!

Hey guys, thank a ton for the input on everything.

After demoing a number of times, I have fallen in love with the Rossi B3 in a 176!

Thanks again for your help, folks.
post #17 of 17
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Originally Posted by thundercleese
Hey guys, thank a ton for the input on everything.

After demoing a number of times, I have fallen in love with the Rossi B3 in a 176!

Thanks again for your help, folks.
Great choice...........the fun meter goes to redline........

SJ
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