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post #1 of 21
Thread Starter 
hi what skis does everyone use? if you ski anything else let the world know of my injustice and inform us of your great discovery.

[ October 11, 2002, 10:01 AM: Message edited by: funkybob ]
post #2 of 21
Bob What happened to K2 on your list? You have Olin and Hart But as far as I know they don't make Olin or Harts anymore. just to let you know I have Atomics,Volants,K2s and a Salomon. As you can see I'm not vary Brand loyal.
post #3 of 21
Thsoe who ski K2 arent important anyways... j/k. It is one of the larger ski companies though... odd that it isnt in the list. I'm sure he will add K2.
Later
GREG
post #4 of 21
Thread Starter 
I agree with greg, but i'll add them anyways,

BoB
post #5 of 21
Thread Starter 
OH, they don't let you edit polls so JUST MAKE THE LAST "?" MARK ENTRY THE K2 ENTRY
post #6 of 21
Kastle was bought by Nordica. Hart is being sold in Japan. Not just old inventory but new skis too. I don't know whether just the Hart name was purchased or the company itself.
post #7 of 21
Quote:
atomic , if everyone knew what was best, we'd all ride atomic
If Atomic didn't make you use their bindings I would consider Atomic.
post #8 of 21
Quote:
Originally posted by kiwiski:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />atomic , if everyone knew what was best, we'd all ride atomic
If Atomic didn't make you use their bindings I would consider Atomic.</font>[/quote]Amen! Love my 10Ex's, but would consider an 11.20 if they gave me my presonal autonomy of the braces I choose!
post #9 of 21
What's wrong with Atomic bindings? I use to use ESS and loved the ability to move the bindings to make the ski more turny or more stable. I will probably get Atomic bindings on my freeride skis this year, whichever ski I end up with, had a problem with my Dynastar's being too turny in deep stuff last year. I would think if the Herminator uses them, they couldn't be too bad
post #10 of 21
Thread Starter 
yo, I have a pair of xentrix 4.12s, I set them all the way up to 12 and they release like they are on 4, any idea why???
post #11 of 21
Atomics have high forward pressure and the lowest elasticity of any binding currently on the market. Look/Rossi have 45 mm of elasticity compared with 18 mm for Atomic, meaning when you ski over something which creates a short sharp shock the binding can start to release but bring ithe boot back to centre if the shock is not a continuous twist. Elasticity and a strong return-to-centre is what gives bindings the ability to absorb high speed shocks while releasing in slow twisting falls.
post #12 of 21
Thread Starter 
kiwi, so is what your saying is, to just in crease the forward pressure?

BoB
post #13 of 21
The problem is that a lot of forward pressure makes it difficult to bring the boot back to centre. An analogy might be holding a wet bar of soap, Atomic would be like squeezing the soap end on between the palms of you hands, if someone flicks the bar it goes squirting out. Look/Rossi are like holding it lightly but wrapping your fingers around the sides, you get a much better grip with less pressure. Atomics just ram the boot from behind into the binding toepiece, which only has two contact points with the boot, once the boot is off centre leverage and friction make it very difficult for the binding to bring the boot back to a centred position.

Look/Rossi and Salomon grip the upper boot radius and have and have anti-friction devices on the very front to the toe. Even when the boot is an inch off centre they still can easily bring the boot back into position, if the force which pushed the boot off centre has disappeared. A lot of elasticity makes it easier for the binding to distinguish between short sharp shocks, like hitting an ice ball on a groomed run when you don't want to release, and continuous slow twisting in a fall when you do want to release.

[ October 12, 2002, 02:59 PM: Message edited by: kiwiski ]
post #14 of 21
Thread Starter 
what is up with all the volklers!!!!
post #15 of 21
Volkl make GREAT skis - had volkls before the stocklis I have now...

Atomic - well there is the binding issue & the EVEN WORSE issue that the bunch who ran the atomic demo day at Falls Creek refused to take me seriously (hmmm - is it because I'm female???) even when I was taken there by 2 instructors who then chose a ski for me to demo. The guys running the demo kept refusing to LET ME demo the damn thing(after the instructors had taken off of course) so - NO ATOMICS HERE!!! I'll buy some more Stocklis next season - I can try what I like without prejudice then.
post #16 of 21
where is the Igneous button?
post #17 of 21
We here in Oz are dead lucky, we can not only GET Stockli, but they are also one of the cheapest brands for us, due in part to our favourable exchange rate with Switzerland, but also because the importer has to sell his wares direct.
I think it'd be cheaper for US-ers to order their stocklis from Australia, actually.
post #18 of 21
Yeah - my Stockli SLR's are for sale if you guys want them...

My instructor can get them to Aspen & I'm sure they could get sent further afield if needed

163cm - VERY cheap in US dollars [img]smile.gif[/img]
post #19 of 21
Atomic bindings are a joke

Any poll such as this without K2 is a joke

Volkl ski prices are a joke

Availability of Stockli's is a joke

Igneous? Joke

Oz is a joke

The Japanese ski market is so different from everywhere else it is a joke

post #20 of 21
Quote:
Originally posted by TheRockSkier:
Atomic bindings are a joke

Any poll such as this without K2 is a joke

Volkl ski prices are a joke

Availability of Stockli's is a joke

Igneous? Joke

Oz is a joke

The Japanese ski market is so different from everywhere else it is a joke

Amen
post #21 of 21
Thread Starter 
funny! Go atomic down with k2 and may line go out of buisness! skiing is a noble sport with some dignity left to it(and line is trying to make it a punk sport! :
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