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Thread Starter 
I do all my own waxing with a wax mouse and have a edge file that i just use gently to clean up an minor edge damage. Its set on zero degrees base and side edge.

My rock skis however now need a major tune the edges have a 'lip' on them after 2 days of lots of rocks. I have no idea what to ask for in a shop for edge bevel degrees. I usually just say tune these and they usually don't seem to be sharp enough when they come back.

To get a good edge grip on hard pack and icey conditions (what it was for most of the early season here in europe) what do i ask for in the shop? How sharp should the edges be?

Anyone know to a good shop in quebec region as we are going there in a couple of weeks.


post #2 of 7
What sort of skis are they?

post #3 of 7
This might help.....
ski bevels

<FONT COLOR="#800080" SIZE="1">[ March 08, 2002 05:15 PM: Message edited 1 time, by artimus ]</font>
post #4 of 7
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the link to bevels, the skis are K2 Patriot G5, 180cm. A GS ski I think. 99 tip, 63 middle, ??tail i'm not sure.

Thanks for any help

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Artimus should be my web-master! Love it!

Arti- if you can find other skis with bevel specs, shoot 'em over to me.

Edges that are sharp enough to shave with isn't the hottest idea. I've heard guys brag about their sharp edges. Yet, if that's what they like... ok.

Problem- Edges that sharp tend to get dinged faster. Also the ski can become squirrely or inpredictable.

Back-from-the-shop edges probbly have been deburred so they might not feel as sharp as they truly are.

Also, they may have been detuned. This is dulling the edges at the tip and tail so the ski is more predictable. However, some people don't like their skis detuned.

There is also a tool to cut a groove into the edges which allows the edge to get a better bite into ice, but the down-side is these edges will also be more vulnerable to nicks and such. but if you ski ice often, maybe that's the way to go. Just stay away from the landmines!
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BTW Artimus- From your profile I see that you fish! into flyfishing? I have a tying station, tools, and a bunch of materials. But then most of my flies bear no resembalance to any insect on the face of the Earth! But some are getting better, and some catch fish. Almost as much fun to tie flies as it is catching fish. Almost!

Now... if I could just figure out how to ski to a creek with my fly rod!
post #7 of 7
Putting edge bevels on skis is fine, I do it to all of my skis, but not nessessary. You already have a file guild that is set for a 90 degree base and side, I would recommend investing in a few more files for your file guild. 90 degrees can slice through ice just fine and especailly if you're on GS skis. The benifit to a 90 degree edge is that you shouldn't have to sharpen as often. The more acute the angle the quicker it will dull.

I would suggest 2 peices of equipment to pick up first before changing your angles:

1. A Panzer file. This is a super aggresive file and takes a lot of edge off. This work very well for extreamly dull skis and skis with a lot of burrs. Panzer files come in many shapes and sizes so it shouldn't be a problem to find one that will fit your file guild.

2. A Skyver. A skyver is used to take back the side wall next to the edge. One will get to a point after tuning long enough that the edge and side wall are flush. It is very difficult to get a sharp edge when this occurs. Use the skyver to take of a thin layer of side wall.

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