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post #31 of 51
I own both the Smith sensor mirror and Oakley Hi-Blue (which is really yellow tinted despite the name).

The Hi-Blue is superior under the worst conditions but I rarely use them because they're blinding in even the dimmest direct light.

The Smith sensor mirror is almost as good as Hi-Blue in flat light but far superior for bright light - although I certainly don't wear them for bluebird days and instead use the Smith Rose Platinum. Yes, I'm a goggle junkie.
post #32 of 51
I switch between Smith Platinum mirror in bright sun and Sensor mirror for everything else. The sensor mirror is almost as good in flat light as my old Uvex yellows were, but far superior at night and in storms.
post #33 of 51
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Originally Posted by dookey67 View Post
shoot!

All I can remember is that Adidas goggles kept coming up. A bunch of guys swore by 'em, two models...one for "normal" light, one for "flat" light situations.
I'm one of them. I like the Yodais.... Orange Mirror lens is very good in flat light and decent if the sun comes out.

And I hate, I mean hate with great bile and resentment, the Oakley HI Yellows. They seem to have a unique ability to be mediocre (not awful, but meh) in really flat light. But if the sun comes out for even a moment - squint and headache time (not just me). And color distortion city. Cloudpeak is usually 180 degrees from me in goggle prefs - and she hated the lens too. Swapped it out after a couple weeks for a HI Persimmon which she likes better in all respects. However, in addition to the lens, the Oakley gasket material has a unique ability to absorb sweat but not let it evaporate. Thus assuring a miserable clammy face if you get at all sweaty. I can't believe I dropped that much money for such a miserable goggle... And on top of it I paid extra $$ for the "optional" Oakley strap that lets you actually wear the goggle with a helmet.

FWIW - per posts above - lots of folks seem to like the Sensor Mirrors...
post #34 of 51
Oakley goggles blow- sure, the optics are great, but they're so stiff that a bit of a twist is enough to crack them, the lenses on all the spherical models stick out past the frame, making them extremely prone to scratching, and you can get eqiuivalent goggles (minus the above problems) from Smith for $20-50 less. The only reason Oakleys are so popular is that they pay out big money in sponsorships.
post #35 of 51
I used to swear by smiths. I switched to oakley for no apparent reason 4 years ago and haven't regretted it. I have never had any problems with them. I have two pairs of a-frames and four lenses to fit my 2-5 days a week/evenings. their website makes it really easy to stock up on lenses. Just don't swap them around when they're wet or cold, as goes for any plastic lens with anti-fog coating on it. And if you take care of them, they won't scratch any more than any other goggle.

Clear is the ultimate night lens. Most night time racers would agree with me there.
post #36 of 51
Like Trochilids, I am in Alaska, the home of flat light. It is just a given that you will ski in flat light here (way flatter than most places) this time of year because the sun barely rises in the ski. Throw in some clouds and/or fog and the world becomes monochromatic.
My wife and I take different approaches and both seem to work OK.
She uses a pair of the Bolle photochromatic lenses. It is incredible how well those seem to work. I like them a lot. So does she.
But I use a pair of Haber goggles (http://www.habervision.com/Products.aspx) that my son gave me. They are polarized and have a coating that seems to paint the terrain, highlighting any variations in contrast. They allow less light through but have excellent contrast. They cost less ($55) than the Bolles and work pretty well.
I used to have rose colored Spys. Either of the ones we use now are better than those.
post #37 of 51
I like Scott's Amplifier lenses. Cheaper than Oakley and perform very well. The Storm OTG fits very well over my glasses too. (Yes, that's how it is supposed to do...).
As far as sunglasses are concerned, I love Vuarnet's Polarlynx lens.
post #38 of 51
This is a very good thread, as I'm trying to decide between a new pair of Wisdoms with either the H.I. Persimmon or the H.I. Yellow/Blue lense. I currently wear the Wisdoms with a Blue Iridium lense, and I'd like to have a specific pair for the flat light conditions. I used to have a Bolle pair with a rose tinted lense and they seemed to work very well in the flat light, blizzard like days. I'm just torn on which HI lense to get, as the Yellow/Blue don't see to enhance any of the contrast, but rather just make the light "brighter".

Does anyone have any comparisons between the HI Blue/Yellow and the HI Persimmon in terms of flat light enhancement, brightness, etc?

JP
post #39 of 51
Smith Sensor Mirror for me, but in that aforementioned TGR thread someone mentioned a Bolle vermillion being far better than the sensor.

Poof, personally I would skip the wisdoms and get some smith prodigies with the sensors. I've tried my friend's wisdoms with an HI blue lens, and I like my sensors far better. To each their own, but the prodigies work far better with helmets.
post #40 of 51

gogg's

I have pair of smith regulator series that offer great peripheral vision becuase they are wide. the frame is very flixable.



They have eleven different lenses to choose:
http://www.smithoptics.com/technolog...ategory=2&id=7

I also have a pair of UVEX like these


Here is their Goggle matrix for UVEX
http://www.uvexsports.com/uvex_goggle_matrix.aspx

The UVEX are a bit small but I picked them up for 50% off just to try and have a second pair. The frame is small and not as comfortable as the SMith but the Frame and lenses are of high quality. I plan on getting a 3rd pair and am considering UVEX Apache below if I can find them on sale.



I have also tried the bolle scream on a bunch and think it's probably the most comfortable of the bunch although I have never skied with them.



Yes, if you don't know it yet I love goggles.

Here is a good place to get replacement lens
http://www.prolens.com/
post #41 of 51
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Originally Posted by doublediamond223 View Post
Smith Sensor Mirror for me, but in that aforementioned TGR thread someone mentioned a Bolle vermillion being far better than the sensor.

Poof, personally I would skip the wisdoms and get some smith prodigies with the sensors. I've tried my friend's wisdoms with an HI blue lens, and I like my sensors far better. To each their own, but the prodigies work far better with helmets.
Thanks DD223. I'm going to order a pair of the Smith Prodigies with the Sensor Mirror lens and try them out. Only worry I have is the "fit" on my face. I bought the Wisdoms for my "large" face to fit on and the fit for the Prodigies says Medium or so. How large are the Smith's compared to the Wisdoms? I have to buy the helmet strap for my wisdoms, since I'm tired of having them slammed against my face since they are so tight. Thanks again! The price difference by the way though, isn't that drastic between the 2 goggles. It's really only about a $13 difference from the Wisdoms to the Prodigies.

JP
post #42 of 51
I paid 85 for my prodigy/sensor mirror combo, fyi. I hope you didn't get hosed.

I find the smiths to be a little bigger than my a-frames, and significantly smaller than the wisdoms. The cool thing is that the smiths have a helmet function built in, as the strap is on a hinge that lets it swing out for helmet use.
post #43 of 51
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Originally Posted by doublediamond223 View Post
Smith Sensor Mirror for me, but in that aforementioned TGR thread someone mentioned a Bolle vermillion being far better than the sensor.

Poof, personally I would skip the wisdoms and get some smith prodigies with the sensors. I've tried my friend's wisdoms with an HI blue lens, and I like my sensors far better. To each their own, but the prodigies work far better with helmets.
I second the Sensor Mirror, But i am using the Phenom.
I have very light eyes that are extremely sensitive to light and find ths Sensor mirror great even in bright sunshine. They let in 70% of the light. Works great going into shade and the best I've used in flat light.

www.sunburstshades.com $114.00 (retail $135.00)
post #44 of 51
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Originally Posted by Voltron View Post
Uvex Vista Lens

Used by Bode, who isn't even sponsored by Uvex.
Never ever seen him in anything but Briko Icarus
post #45 of 51
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Originally Posted by doublediamond223 View Post
I paid 85 for my prodigy/sensor mirror combo, fyi. I hope you didn't get hosed.

I find the smiths to be a little bigger than my a-frames, and significantly smaller than the wisdoms. The cool thing is that the smiths have a helmet function built in, as the strap is on a hinge that lets it swing out for helmet use.
Where did you get that price? $85 is really good. The best I've found was $97 for the Sensor Mirrors. I can get the Wisdoms with HI Blue/Yellow for $110 or so.

That's good feedback about the size. I don't think the Wisdoms are overly big, so I have a feeling the Smiths might be too small. I have to track down a store around here that sells them to maybe try on before buying. I like the strap idea though.

Thanks again

JP
post #46 of 51
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Originally Posted by Poof100 View Post
I can get the Wisdoms with HI Blue/Yellow for $110 or so.
If you wear a helmet - don't forget the extra 15 bucks for the Wisdom "helmet strap" - which you will very likely need to buy if you want them to fit with a helmet.

And seriously, if you go with Oakley, get the HI Persimmon vs the HI Yellow. Even ignoring my personal hatred of the Wisdom+HI Yellow lens - it seems lots more people are happy with the HI Persimmon.
post #47 of 51
+1 for Scott's light amplifier lens. I got a pair for Tuesday night racing, but the clears proved to be far superior despite Scott's marketing claim.
The flipside is, they ended up being the best flat light goggles I've ever used.
post #48 of 51
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Originally Posted by Poof100 View Post
Where did you get that price? $85 is really good. The best I've found was $97 for the Sensor Mirrors. I can get the Wisdoms with HI Blue/Yellow for $110 or so.

That's good feedback about the size. I don't think the Wisdoms are overly big, so I have a feeling the Smiths might be too small. I have to track down a store around here that sells them to maybe try on before buying. I like the strap idea though.

Thanks again

JP
The Prodigy is bigger then the Phenom. both fit in my helmet handsomely. (Briko WC Forerunner)

One additional feature on the Smith's is the regulator lens. Lets you open or close vents in the lens itself in addition to the helmet adjustable outriggers.
post #49 of 51
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Originally Posted by Poof100 View Post
Where did you get that price? $85 is really good. The best I've found was $97 for the Sensor Mirrors. I can get the Wisdoms with HI Blue/Yellow for $110 or so.
NIB from ebay. It was a lucky find, to be sure.
post #50 of 51
Thanks for all the advice. I already have the Wisdom helmet strap on order for my existing Wisdoms with Blue Iridium goggles. I found it online for $12 from Princeton Ski shops. It's a NY/NJ chain.

I found a good deal on the Smith Prodigy goggles, $79.99 from Alpine Sports Outlet but they only have Cement or Red. I don't mind the Red and can't beat the price. I'm going to order them and see how they go. From what I read on the reviews from Back Country, the Phenom model is a smaller fit and the Prodigy is a larger face fit.

JP
post #51 of 51
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Originally Posted by Poof100 View Post
Thanks for all the advice. I already have the Wisdom helmet strap on order for my existing Wisdoms with Blue Iridium goggles. I found it online for $12 from Princeton Ski shops. It's a NY/NJ chain.

I found a good deal on the Smith Prodigy goggles, $79.99 from Alpine Sports Outlet but they only have Cement or Red. I don't mind the Red and can't beat the price. I'm going to order them and see how they go.
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From what I read on the reviews from Back Country, the Phenom model is a smaller fit and the Prodigy is a larger face fit.
JP
That is correct! I preferred the Phenom!
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