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Do I tell my friend...?

post #1 of 19
Thread Starter 
Yes, it is a gear dilemma.

A friend had left her skis in her roof box until about 2 weeks ago. She knew I was doing nothing, so left them with me "to take the rust off the edges".
Well, it was more than just a little light rust on the edges, one of the brakes was practically rusted to an edge!

Before I started work on the skis, I took a look at the bases. To say they were a little base high would be an understatement - I'd guess that she's never had a base grind, only had edges done and waxing. But these are old skis - well, the original Salomon xscream 1080 - the yellow ones.

Now, I've taken the rust of the edges, and given the skis sharp edges - what she had were virtually rounded smooth. I've also put some wax on them. The bases may not have been waxed in a long time too.

I KNOW she is going to feel the difference in now having decent edges and waxed bases. Do I tell her that she should get a base grind, or not? (I also know that she is considering changing her skis soon, so it may be a waste of time/money)
post #2 of 19
I'd tell her just what you told us. It will allow her to make an informed decision.
post #3 of 19
Thread Starter 
So, I was returning the skis yesterday, and I start off:
Have you ever had the bases ground before?
-Um, what's that, I don't think so.
So what way have you had them seviced before?
-I get them waxed and edged at the start of each season, why?
Then I start to explain the way her edges are worn, and her bases are running high.
Then I asked about where she last got the edges done, as they seem to be 0/0 - 90 degrees/flat.
Takes a while for her to remember. She wants to know why. I explain that I use files where I set angles, and I can tell roughly what angle the edges were done the last time.
So, it appears the last time they were "serviced", the edges were sharpened with the ski lying on the floor of someone's apartment in a resort, and they used a standard metal handfile.
Ah. That explains it!
post #4 of 19
Load her up with a few drinks before the discussion...she'll be more agreeable!
post #5 of 19
Thread Starter 
We had the discussion after a few drinks!
post #6 of 19
And then .......................... ?????

Fox explains that a fine white wine is for cleaning the bases and the candles are for waxing .... ??
post #7 of 19
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Yuki
And then .......................... ?????

Fox explains that a fine white wine is for cleaning the bases and the candles are for waxing .... ??
And then I increased her DIN settings to prevent premature ejection...

(NO)
post #8 of 19
Diamonds and Wax (a girl's best friends)
post #9 of 19
Not sure how they got the edges filed square without bringing the base down, but enjoyed the rest of the story...
post #10 of 19
[quote=Wear The Fox Hat]And then I increased her DIN settings to prevent premature ejection...

(NO)[/quot

Too Funny!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!
post #11 of 19
Fox:

Can't resist, hope you were not on Markers...

(I actually use Markers)
post #12 of 19

Wtfh

Was the base-high curvature noticeably different along the length of the ski?
post #13 of 19

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TFF ... Screws to increase the DIN eh? ...... I'll stop now ..
post #14 of 19
Thread Starter 
Yuki, yup, it required the use of my big screwdriver...
post #15 of 19
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by comprex
Was the base-high curvature noticeably different along the length of the ski?
The tail of one was the worst, the tips weren't too bad, and the mid sections were quite bad.
post #16 of 19
I had a similar question once.

Since that question was posted, he skied them about 6 days total over 2 seasons. He reported a strong sensation of a 'dead' feeling underfoot and a 'lack of rebound' and 'liveliness' that certainly wasn't what they had started out with.

Based on that report, and 2 runs that I made on the ski, I am inclined to suspect 'too soft' might have been partly the answer, and I am still thinking about whether the downstem threads might be relevant.
post #17 of 19
Fox and Comprex ..... stop it ... had to clean my reading glasses twice now; first they steam then the tears of laughter ...
post #18 of 19
A real pal would have sent them for a grind .... waxed them and returned them with a bow.

Course you might end up with more friends than you can handle.

Skis would start appearing on you doorstep like "stray kittens".
post #19 of 19

A moment of seriousness.

Uh, Yuki,
the skis I'd been talking about had never been "flat"-filed only stone ground (4x) and base-planed (3x), true bar every time. The base irregularities were strictly an on-snow consequence.

PS he brews somewhat good beer, and its rather that I'd have for the kitten act.
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