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172 Metron M11 too much ski ?

post #1 of 15
Thread Starter 
Hi. I am new to this forum and would like to say how impressed i have been with all the technical advice I have been reading over the last week or so. Great forum.

I have a bit of a dilema. I cannot demo skis before I go to Livigno in a few weeks and I love the write-ups the Atomic Metron M11's (or XI's) get from all you guys. I am a very aggressive skier (about skill level 8) and love to hammer down steeper blue and red runs GS style. I am also competent on black runs but have to do much shorter turns. I started off-piste last year and really enjoyed it. I would say this year that my skiing would be 70% piste, 30% off with that ratio getting more even towards the end of the season.

I am 168 lbs and 5ft 10 inches tall and I am swayed towards the 162's. However, I do like GS turns and stability so should I be going for 172's? I am worried they will be too much to handle on piste if I do. I have never ridden shaped skis before. The Metron calculator puts me at 1324 with long turn selected and 1254 with medium. Also, the weight I have entered is without boots or the rest of my gear on.

Any help greatly appreciated.

cheers

Fly
post #2 of 15
without ever having ridden shaped skis, you shouldn't choose skis just by the bling bling in the advertisement text.
post #3 of 15
Thread Starter 
I know but no-where to try before I buy here and I do value the experienced opinions of people who have tried them on this forum. I am going to purchase them from Snow & Rock who will replace the ski's with another model after my holiday should I find them unsuitable. They only knock off a rental charge for doing this.

Fly.
post #4 of 15
I think most Metron skiers would say that the X1 in a 172 cm is very skiable for you per your defined ability level, size and weight, and turn preference. The B5 in a 172 cm is considerd by many to be too much ski for all but the most aggressive or somebody that is much heavier than you.

I have the 11 in a 162 cm. I'm 6 ft 175 lbs. I'm pretty happy with that size but I believe I might enjoy this same ski in the 172 cm length a little more. In chunky crud like snow, I feel the 162 cm gets tossed around a little bit more than maybe the longer length would. The fact you can try them and determine if you picked the right length is a nice fall back position.
post #5 of 15
You may want to consider a different ski if you have never been on a shaped ski . Not to take anything away from the m11 but with the type of skiing you describe Atomics new Izor 9.7 would be a better fit for you . They have a 16m radius @168cm rather than the Metrons 11m @ 162cm , this will give you more versatility . These things are great all condition skis .
post #6 of 15
I am 200 and 5'10" and the 162 was too short of a ski for me. I felt like i was falling over the tips.
post #7 of 15
If your preference is GS turns, then the M11's might not be the best choice. They are more comfortable doing short turns.
post #8 of 15
I think you will enjoy the 172 much more than the 162. I don't think it will be to much ski for you. The 162 as Phil stated will be to short for you. The 172 will most definately handle off piste snow conditions alot better than the 162 as well. Never being on a set of shaped skis; well your technique is about to change a bit. But for the better! It may take a bit to get used to them, but being at the ability you stated I think it will be a good investment for you and your future skiing abilities! Especially since if you dont like them you get to change for a different model. Hell yeah man, Go for it
post #9 of 15
I skied the 162's and 172's for a day last year & there was no question, for me the 172, hands down. There's just more ski there. In fact, I wanted to like the 162's because that's what everyone said I needed, but it wasn't close. I'm 5'10" and about 170#, level 9 or so I guess. And so far as skiing these in a fast GS type of turn... well at over 40 now, these are good to uncomfortably fast speeds.

Jeff
post #10 of 15
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Originally Posted by wizard
If your preference is GS turns, then the M11's might not be the best choice. They are more comfortable doing short turns.
True. The M10s might be a better choice.
post #11 of 15
Thread Starter 
Thanks. My mind is made up. Goin for the 172's. I feel the M11's are the best balance for on/off piste. I think the Izor range is more of a piste ski for intermediates than an allrounder for advanced skiers. I know I haven't ski'd shaped before but I like a challenge and want some skis to grow into. I just hope they don't run away from me like the 205 Castle RX's my dad bought me for my 17th birthday : I don't mind having to put a bit more effort into the turn initiation but there is only a 1 metre difference between the turn radius of the 162 and the 172 in anycase so they can't be that much harder to control can they ?

Anyhow, anyone want an early Xmas present. Look at the price of these and they are in all sizes. €479. That's nearly a 200 Euro discount for 06 model :-

http://www.yatego.com/lifestyle_1993...-mod-05-06-neu-

Fly
post #12 of 15
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Originally Posted by Flyst@r
Thanks. My mind is made up. Goin for the 172's. I feel the M11's are the best balance for on/off piste. I think the Izor range is more of a piste ski for intermediates than an allrounder for advanced skiers.
Good Luck with the XIs.

I have them in a 162 and I'm 5'7" 170#

Don't buy in to the misconception that the Izor's are just for intermediates.

They are great skis and grip better then the XIs but don't float as well.
post #13 of 15

M:11 versus SX:10

Since I am basically in the same position as the original poster (similar type of skier, similar background, similar desires), I have an additional question, namely how the M:11 compares to another ski I had in mind, the SX:10.

Could one say that the performance of the SX:10 on groomed pistes is significantly better than the of the M:11? And by that I mean in terms of speed, edge-to-edge manoeuvrability etc.

Also, I am a bit scared by the supposed weight of the Metron skis. Could anyone give an indication (lbs, kg) of how much the 05/06 model weighs with 412 bindings?

Finally, can one ski on the M:11 all day long or would it be better to go for the M:10? I.e., is the difference as significant as in the Atomic SL-series?

Thanks in advance for any reply, Stan
post #14 of 15
Fly, you should try before you buy in Livigno. Remember Livigno is duty free and your ski's will cost a lot less there than in the UK. I bought a pair out there a couple of years ago and the shops there have a great range and are happy for you to try first.
post #15 of 15
Thread Starter 
Cheers Nigel. I thought about that too as I have been before so I emailed all the shops in Livigno I could get an address for and looks like 699 Euros was the cheapest they would do them for. I have now managed to get Snow & Rock to price match that German site (link above) and I am the proud owner of an 06 pair incl. bindings for £307 plus delivery!!!!

I didn't know until recently that their price match covers the whole of Europe. Happy days !

If they prove too long in a 172 I will swap them for 162 after my holiday. I will get charged £100 to do this.


Fly.
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