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post #1 of 19
Thread Starter 
Up until 3 years ago I would ski several days per week. However I just finished law school, and have been out of the "ski" world for a few years. The changes in equipment has been drastic and I'm at a lost of where to begin searching for the perfect ski.

Terrain:
Think Boilerplate! South-eastern Michigan, manmade snow, groomed.
However, I head out to Colorado for a week each year, where I avoid the deep powder, mostly stay on: groomed slopes, a few bump runs, and a few runs through the trees. So I'm not looking for a wide powder ski.
I also like to go through the gates every once in a while.

Ability:
I've been skiing a long time, I've had everything from Rossi 4s, 7s, Volkl P9sl, twin tips, etc...
I was on a high school race team, Race in college (Big-Ten team) but that was 8 years ago, and my focus has changed.
I'd like to be on the "beer league" at the local hill, (bunch of drunk guys and a few serious hardcore racers on Wednesdays) But with work it's doubtful I'll be able to compete every week.

Equipment:
I like LIGHT WEIGHT equipment. I have a set os Salomon ski's with some type of Alumni binding, and those things are frickin' tanks. Right now I'm skiing a HART Twin Tip with Look Racing bindings, needless to say they are very light, but a few years old.
I'm not crazy about the trend in having the toe and heal piece attached, regardless of the "floating" above the ski, I feel it's contradicted by the extra weight.
I like the lightweight so I can whip them back in quick turns. (throw back to the highschool mogul days)
I was on a big-ten ski team, but that was about 7 years ago.

Turning:
A ski that can pop lightning quick short turns when needed, but something I can set on edge and make nice long carved turns.
A ski that I can simply roll from edge to edge and carve back and forth, but with the occassional quick short turns.
(I like the short turns, because the gates here are extremely quick, being we are looking at 300' vertical)


What I'm looking for:
Last year model on discount.

what I'm not looking for:
a ski that has a proprietary binding. I don't like ski's that have the plates built in to them (again added weight).
I LOVE bindings that allow the heel to twist off to the side, instead of straight up. Like the Marker MRR (of yesteryear) or the Look bindings (of yesteryear). It may be old technology, but that's my preference.


So with all that
What do you recommend
post #2 of 19
How big small are you ?

Pivoting heel bindings would be look or rossignol (same thing).

If you are a aggressive skier I would say the Dynastar legend 8000's. Great for everything and really quiock edge to edge. If you can find last years ski you should be able to pick it up cheap. I ride them and love them. I am a very aggressive skier and put in alot of days on the mountain. Skis come flat are pretty light to.

But we really need to know more about you, like height, weight. If you raced on college team I would think you are a pretty technically sound skier and should be able to drive the Legend 8000's. The harder you ride them the more they talk back to ya.
post #3 of 19
Thread Starter 
6' 1" about 200lbs. 33 years old.

Like I said I had to take the last 3 years off of skiing, so far I've been out 4 times this season (not bad for s.e. Michigan)
post #4 of 19
Welcome fellow michigander. I ski mainly around michigan as well, more in the petoskey area though. For the tiny verts around here I like something with a tight radius. Currently I use Elan S10's and head xrc 1100 sw for the hills around here. There are tons of good carving skis out there, you could look at the volkl 5/6 star, elan s10/12, fischer rx8, or a slalom race ski. Just make sure to get a tight radius and try out some of the demos up north if possible.

Seth
post #5 of 19
Sorry didn't read the light ski preference. I would stay away from the legends, they are light, but with that radius you'll get 4-5 turns max at some of the places around here. Dynastar generally does make a pretty light ski though, maybe look at last years skicross series?
post #6 of 19
Quote:
Originally Posted by ELVF50
Sorry didn't read the light ski preference. I would stay away from the legends, they are light, but with that radius you'll get 4-5 turns max at some of the places around here. Dynastar generally does make a pretty light ski though, maybe look at last years skicross series?
4-5 turns ? Have you ever rode the dynastar legend 8000's?
They are pretty quick in the tight trees here on the east coast, i tear up bump runs with them, and can make any radius turn I want at any time. They are flat skis and very light. I mainly ski the east coast and never leave home without the legends. Gore mountain is my home mountain, mad river glenn and sugarbush i ski many many times a winter. Jay peak as well. Best ski I eve r rode. They rip in any condition and are stellar on the steeps! Can't go wrong with them.
post #7 of 19
Despite being a great ski, the Legend 8000 is not the ski you want for the midwest. You could easily make a case for them out east though...

Get an 04/05' Atomic SL:9 or Fischer RX8 in a 170. They will let you get your turns in out here in our 300 foot vertical (fellow midwest skier), compete in your beer league, and still have enough versatility to handle the out west trip. If it happens to dump 3 feet, rent a powder board.

The Atomic has a plate built in and requires an atomic binding, not sure about the Fischer. Neither of them are particularly heavy in any case (just don't stick an 04/05' Neox binding on the SL:9), and they don't weigh anything when you are standing on them. Either of those skis is going to be able to turn as quick as you can manage.

If not these for whatever reason, you probably want to be looking at a slalom ski at around a 170 length.
post #8 of 19
Quote:
Originally Posted by onyxjl
Despite being a great ski, the Legend 8000 is not the ski you want for the midwest. You could easily make a case for them out east though...

Get an 04/05' Atomic SL:9 or Fischer RX8 in a 170. They will let you get your turns in out here in our 300 foot vertical (fellow midwest skier),

Fair enough, 300 feet of vertical; I guess it would be a little bit of overkill
post #9 of 19
huck, i agree the 8000 are great for the east, but in south east michigan we're really talking 250 vert, max. So slalom or similar is really the only way to go.
post #10 of 19
Quote:
Originally Posted by ELVF50
huck, i agree the 8000 are great for the east, but in south east michigan we're really talking 250 vert, max. So slalom or similar is really the only way to go.
I can definately understand why you would go that route with the amount of vertical you have to play with.
post #11 of 19
Thread Starter 
Excellent info..

What about a pair of 150cm (I know they are really short) Volkl P60 SL WC?
I can get a killer price on a used set.

Since I'm 6'1 about 200lbs.. are these too short?
post #12 of 19
Yes, they are going to be too short. JimL is selling an RX8 in a 170 for three hundred something. That would be a good buy for you.
post #13 of 19
Quote:
Originally Posted by Michigan Skier
Excellent info..

What about a pair of 150cm (I know they are really short) Volkl P60 SL WC?
I can get a killer price on a used set.

Since I'm 6'1 about 200lbs.. are these too short?
LOL !!! My wife is 5 feet tall and hers are bigger than that (154)

Dont let people kid you. If you are a competent skier you can make any radius turn you want with pretty much any ski you want with the exception of a race stock DH/GS ski.
post #14 of 19
I grew up in Traverse City, and live in Ohio. Our hills are similar to Brighton, Pine Knodb, Holly and Alpine. I just took a my new RX8 out for the first time. Excellent ski. They sound like they might be what you are looking for.
post #15 of 19
Thread Starter 
I think I'm going to go with the RX series.

Now should I go with RX8 or RX9

I like the 8 because it is a little quicker turning ski (looking at the measurements) 115 66 98.

But the 9 was the ski of the year last year and a little slower turning ski looking at the measurements 109 69 96.

This isn't that much of a difference and a pair of each ski's are for sale in these classifieds. Is there really that much difference between these two skis?

Remember I'm on Boilerplate, groomed ice in Southeastern Michigan (Brighton).

How HEAVY is the FX12 binding? I tried a demo set of Head skis with some tyrolia binding and it was like a cinder block. TOO heavy.
post #16 of 19
You are putting way too much emphasis on weight.

You are not doing aerobatics. Most true race equipment which is built to ski on very firm snow or ice is rather heavy a rule.
post #17 of 19
Quote:
Originally Posted by Michigan Skier
I think I'm going to go with the RX series.

Now should I go with RX8 or RX9

I like the 8 because it is a little quicker turning ski (looking at the measurements) 115 66 98.

But the 9 was the ski of the year last year and a little slower turning ski looking at the measurements 109 69 96.

This isn't that much of a difference and a pair of each ski's are for sale in these classifieds. Is there really that much difference between these two skis?

Remember I'm on Boilerplate, groomed ice in Southeastern Michigan (Brighton).

How HEAVY is the FX12 binding? I tried a demo set of Head skis with some tyrolia binding and it was like a cinder block. TOO heavy.
afreind of mine has a brand spanking new pair of RX8's that have never been skied on. i believe they are 165 05/06 model with bindings PM me if interested.
post #18 of 19
I would go with the 8, as I did. Small to medium radius turns are what you need in Michigan. I would also agree not to worry about the weight.

Mark
post #19 of 19
Buy mine (I'm your height, age, weigh a bit less). These are good for the on-piste conditions you described:

http://forums.epicski.com/showthread.php?t=32856

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