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Anyone know the new and old Atomic binding weight?

post #1 of 18
Thread Starter 
I was wondering if anyone knew off hand the weight of the new 2006 neox, the last year 2005 neox and the previous version Race 412/612 or Ride 412/612 Atomic Bindings.

I have several pairs of Race and Ride Bindings and I wonder how they stack up weight-wise to the neoxs. Thanks

Greg
post #2 of 18
I just went back to my stock room and weighed two 4:12's
  • '05 in box w/all paperwork = 7 lb 14 oz
  • '06 in box w/all paperwork = 7 lb 4 oz.
That's all I have to check. Scale has 2 oz. graduations, so it's not accurate below that.

SJ
post #3 of 18
I skied my Metrons with bouth bindings, last years and this years, I didn't notice a difference..on the snow.
post #4 of 18
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Originally Posted by Phil Pugliese
I skied my Metrons with bouth bindings, last years and this years, I didn't notice a difference..on the snow.
I have an '05 M-ex and an '06 and I don't notice it either.

SJ
post #5 of 18
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Originally Posted by SierraJim
I just went back to my stock room and weighed two 4:12's
  • '05 in box w/all paperwork = 7 lb 14 oz
  • '06 in box w/all paperwork = 7 lb 4 oz.
That's all I have to check. Scale has 2 oz. graduations, so it's not accurate below that.

SJ
Jim

How much are they? I need a pair for the MEX's I just picked up.

Thanks.
post #6 of 18
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Originally Posted by Coach13
Jim

How much are they? I need a pair for the MEX's I just picked up.

Thanks.
Sorry for the delay, I got too busy to check back until now.

I'm going to have to get back to you, right now my inventory is shot, but I'm trying to get more bindings to sell a-la carte I may know as soon as Monday and will PM you avail and price.

SJ
post #7 of 18

aluminum parts saves about 500 grams each binding

For each binding:

04-05 Neox 1670 grams / 3.68 lbs
05-06 Neox 1170 grams / 2.58 lbs.
post #8 of 18
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Originally Posted by gordopost
For each binding:

04-05 Neox 1670 grams / 3.68 lbs
05-06 Neox 1170 grams / 2.58 lbs.
For those that don't know, that is a HUGE difference, and is very noticeable on snow. A 2.2 lb difference is BIG.
post #9 of 18
It surprises me that between the two bindings for a pair of skis a total of 3.5 lbs. would make a lot of difference but I agree it does. I notice the extra weight of the older Neox when carrying my skis vertically (tails about 6 inches off the ground and being held up with one hand) from my locker 40 - 50 yards to the snow. It feels like I'm going to get tennis elbow carrying them. The B5'S with the older Neox are ridiculous. Its more difficult to carry these skis in this manner then doing 3 sets of dumbbell curls at the gym.

I like the binding but Atomic made them too heavy last year.
post #10 of 18
Does anyone know if they lightened up the metron skis this year as well as the 4:12 Neox binding?
Or was it just the binding that they lightened up?
post #11 of 18
My guess is that the extra weight was coming from the mounting plate. I ordered a pair of last years left over 4:12 Neox that just arrived and the part that feels the heaviest is the plate.

Couldn't beat the price though. I'll carry an extra two pounds for the savings.
post #12 of 18
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Originally Posted by Highway Star
For those that don't know, that is a HUGE difference, and is very noticeable on snow. A 2.2 lb difference is BIG.
So, what difference(s) in have you noticed in how they ski? I mean other than the obvious like harder to do jump turns on steeps
post #13 of 18
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Originally Posted by MattL
So, what difference(s) in have you noticed in how they ski? I mean other than the obvious like harder to do jump turns on steeps
Weight on a ski/binding setup is actually very noticeable. For me, a setup that weighs 18 lb underfoot will feel fairly heavy while a 14 lb setup will feel light....that's the range most of my gear falls into. You wouldn't think that 4 lb range is very signfigant, but it is. Some binding and plate setups weigh alot more than others, and this can take a light ski and make it feel heavy.

The weight is noticeable at all times. A heavier ski+binding will plow through crud and choppy snow better than a light one, in a carve, straight run or skidded turn. Any time you need to make your skis change direction without edging, such as in a jump turns or bumps, you will notice the weight too.
post #14 of 18

Correction. 06 Neox is 500 grams lighter per PAIR, not each.

Correction>>

I checked with an Atomic rep who said the 1.1 lb or 500 gram figure is for a PAIR of bindings...not an individual unit.

Consequently the different in weight is only about a half pound per ski. This helps explain why some people say the weight difference is not readily noticiable between the old steel and new aluminum versions.

The corrected values using my measure weighing an actual O5 Neox 412 and subtracting the 250 gram difference of the lighter 06 model are:

04-05 Neox 1670 grams / 3.68 lbs
05-06 Neox 1420 grams / 3.13 lbs.

It also reinforces my attempts to mount a much lighter binding than the Neox series on my Metron M10. The Device 310 that weighs in at 0740 grams or 1 lb 10 oz each. Help me find that tracking plate. gordo.
post #15 of 18
Public service anouncement:

Look P18's weigh 5.5 lb per pair, or 2.75 lb each. That is their 18 din race stock model.

That is all.
post #16 of 18
Thread Starter 
For the record, I just weighed a 2003 CR 614 and it came in at 3 lbs, 8.4 oz which is about 1600 grams.

Greg
post #17 of 18
The 05/06 Neox on the 05/06 M:b5 is a noticably lighter set-up when carrying it. Most of the time, I don't notice the difference on snow. Perhaps a bit less blast powder through chop...
post #18 of 18
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Originally Posted by Highway Star
Public service anouncement:

Look P18's weigh 5.5 lb per pair, or 2.75 lb each. That is their 18 din race stock model.

That is all.
That is a great binding, my Neox's do me fine.
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