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Ski lock suggestion - please

post #1 of 34
12/1/05 at 6:17pm
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As some may know, I had a pair of Fischer RX6's stolen the first day I had them out skiing. I replaced them, but think I should get a lock.

I've only seen a thin cable/lock combo at Pedigree ski shop in Stamford, CT. My dog could gnaw through this cable! Are there any better options. I am not aware of a ski valet at all of the places I go or plan to go to this season (assuming it dips below 50* and starts snowing!)

Thanks,
Scott
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post #2 of 34
12/1/05 at 6:19pm
http://us.kensington.com/html/6311.html
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post #3 of 34
12/1/05 at 6:31pm
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Originally Posted by Scott K
but think I should get a lock.
Why don't you just seperate your skis? I always put my poles with one ski and the other I'll take with me and lean it against something I can see from inside. Often right by the door. When you do this thieves assume you're watching that one ski even if they know where the other is (which they won't).

Steve
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post #4 of 34
12/1/05 at 7:10pm
I don't know if resorts are equipped with such racks in your area, but a Ski Key is nice: compact (fits in your pocket) and provides reasonable security. Not too expensive either.

Separating your skis/poles isn't a good idea: I've had someone take one pole (probably just to piss me off because I didn't left the other one there) and one of my friend had his other ski stolen while doing one footed skiing drills.
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post #5 of 34
12/1/05 at 7:20pm
Check the bike shops or stores like REI for a good thick cable/key lock that fits around your waist like a belt, or you leave locked up where you plan to store your skis for lunch. Unless you select a cable/combo lock,don't lose your key.Wear it around your neck on a chain. Don't use the old style Kryptonite style lock that can be opened with a plastic ball point pen top. The newer locks have solved this problem==for now.
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post #6 of 34
12/1/05 at 8:10pm
A lock doesn't have to make your skis impervious...just inconvenient. I am happy with my retractable cable lock.
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post #7 of 34
12/1/05 at 8:47pm
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Originally Posted by jeffr
Separating your skis/poles isn't a good idea:
I've done it 100+ days a year for a decade so it works pretty well for me. The last thing I'd want is to carry around a lock every day to protect against the tiny chance that separating fails. But hey, everybody's different.

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I've had someone take one pole (probably just to piss me off because I didn't left the other one there) and one of my friend had his other ski stolen while doing one footed skiing drills.
People steal singles because they break one of their own. It's rare compared to those who steal for profit.

I've never seen a local that gets on the hill a lot use a ski lock.

Steve
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post #8 of 34
12/1/05 at 9:19pm
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Originally Posted by jstraw
A lock doesn't have to make your skis impervious...just inconvenient. I am happy with my retractable cable lock.
Agreed. Although I have among the nicest skis on a given day, they are also the only ones locked (poles too). It would be much easier for a thief to steal any other pair. Could my plastic-pervasive lock be broken? Sure, but it is easier to grab another pair. That is the name of the game, IMO.

I'd rather carry them into the lodge than have the weight of a bike lock in my jacket.
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post #9 of 34
12/2/05 at 2:53am
http://store.yahoo.com/snowshack/krypc3comloc.html
I use this one.
The cable is fat, and it's easy to use with your gloves on.
It's long enough to cover 2 pairs of skis and poles.
You'll be able to forget about your stuff while you're inside eating, etc.
And it doesn't take up much space in your pocket.
Ciao
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post #10 of 34
12/2/05 at 3:47am
Remember locks just keep honest people out.

The basic $14.00 retractable cable lock is enough make it difficult for the average thief. If someone real wants your skis, there is not much to stop them.
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post #11 of 34
12/2/05 at 4:47am
Good point.
You can't stop an assassination either.
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post #12 of 34
12/2/05 at 4:55am
http://snowshack.com/kryptonite-retractor-lock.html
This lock is pretty good.
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post #13 of 34
12/2/05 at 5:40am
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Originally Posted by Atown313
My wife and I have been using the Kryptonite for the past 5 seasons.

Anything larger or heavier is just annoying.

Yes someone can cut the lock but they will more likely move on to another pair that are unlocked.

Just take a look at a ski rack someday and see all the nice new unlocked skis.

A thief is not going to risk getting caught by someone seeing a small pair of wire cutters.
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post #14 of 34
12/2/05 at 7:04am
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Originally Posted by Atown313
I thought the cable was too thin on that one.
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post #15 of 34
12/2/05 at 7:04am
Just a word of caution when purchaseing your lock on line. Different bindings will only accomodate different sized cable ends. I have a couple good locks that will not fit through the space on the new atomic binding hardware. Take the skis with you to buy the lock. Or maybe I am missing something?
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post #16 of 34
12/2/05 at 7:14am
The kryptonite retractors just clear the metal arms on the heel pad of the Atomic bindings.

They also fit fine on Sallies and other companies.

This is one of the reasons that cables are not thicker.
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post #17 of 34
12/2/05 at 7:26am
Whoever said it first said it best --Unfortunately Locks (for anything skis , cars , homes etc) ARE for HONEST people .

The skeezers always find a way . Check em , if u r worried , lock em if you care to make it SOMEWHAT inconvienient , or throw caution to wind and suffer the consequences !

Since i ski mid-week I always lock em within visual sight @ local uncrowed hills & check em @ major resorts where the density seems to warrant it
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post #18 of 34
12/2/05 at 8:33am
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Originally Posted by mkevenson
Just a word of caution when purchaseing your lock on line. Different bindings will only accomodate different sized cable ends. I have a couple good locks that will not fit through the space on the new atomic binding hardware. Take the skis with you to buy the lock. Or maybe I am missing something?
My brand-less cable retractor doesn't fit through the bindings on any of my atomic race skis. I solve this problem by basically tying them to the rack and locking the cable. It is tight enough that no one can even think of pulling them out. I integrate my poles into the weave as well, and I think it solves the problem well, although it takes more time to lock and unlock.
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post #19 of 34
12/2/05 at 9:09am
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Originally Posted by jeffr
I don't know if resorts are equipped with such racks in your area, but a Ski Key is nice: compact (fits in your pocket) and provides reasonable security. Not too expensive either.

Separating your skis/poles isn't a good idea: I've had someone take one pole (probably just to piss me off because I didn't left the other one there) and one of my friend had his other ski stolen while doing one footed skiing drills.
Ski Keys are great if your area has the racks that accept them. If not, ask them to get one!!!!
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post #20 of 34
12/2/05 at 9:45am
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Originally Posted by Scalce
The kryptonite retractors just clear the metal arms on the heel pad of the Atomic bindings.

They also fit fine on Sallies and other companies.

This is one of the reasons that cables are not thicker.
Looking at the Kryponite retractables, I see the R1 and R2. Descriptions seem the same. Any real differences?
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post #21 of 34
12/2/05 at 9:54am
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Originally Posted by mkevenson
Looking at the Kryponite retractables, I see the R1 and R2. Descriptions seem the same. Any real differences?
The R1 only has 3 digits.

The R2 and B2 have 4 digits and the B2 has a tool thing which is useless.

I prefer the 4 digit ones.

Yes locks are not the "end all be all" solution but they are still something.
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post #22 of 34
12/2/05 at 11:49am
There's an old joke:
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Two hikers on a trail came around the bend to find an enormous grizzly bear. The bear spies them and starts walking towards them growling and looking menacing. One hiker drops his backpack, sits down, throws off his boots, and starts lacing up a pair of running shoes. The other hiker says: "What are you doing? You will never outrun that bear!". The first hiker replies: "I don't have to outrun the bear...I just have to outrun you."
Likewise, with skis and locks. Find an unlocked pair of really nice new skis, and lock yours up right next to them. Most theives are pretty lazy.

I use a retractable kryptonite model that fits nicely into the top pocket of my parka. I don't even notice it's there.
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post #23 of 34
12/2/05 at 12:08pm

Ski Key

Another Nod for the Ski Key system.

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post #24 of 34
12/3/05 at 3:51pm
I too have lost a new pair of skis. (third day) I think a thief is a low life lazy SOB and it really doesn't take much effort to discourage them. Now I separate my skis. I think a light weight lock or separating skis are both just enough to cause the thief to move along to another easier mark.
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post #25 of 34
12/3/05 at 5:31pm
Another endorsement for ski key.

And Remington makes a nice pump-action 12-guage shotgun.
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post #26 of 34
12/4/05 at 11:20am
http://www.rei.com/product/47850322...._SNOWBOARD_TOC

This has been more than sufficient .....here are some thoughts

The cable is thick enought to deter most cutters...I think you need something substantial to cut through this...and a cutter that large would attract attention anyway....

The lock ends go nicely between the brake lifters on my solly bindings and through the heelpiece of my look p12's ...small but solid

The combo is a bit of a pain when you have big gloves on but i haven't found opening it up to be a problem with just liners on

It is long enought to be of practical use but coils up to fit nicely in a pocket (and it isn't bulky)

It costs $10!!!

This is a snowboard lock but it's given me plenty of service last season with my skis....I'd have 2 pairs out when teaching and I'd swap them depending on what i'd be doing quite a few times during the day...lockup was a breeze.....
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post #27 of 34
12/4/05 at 6:22pm
yet another nod for Ski Key. light, compact, and probably the safest.

here's a ski area locator for the racks:

http://skikey.com/locations/locations.htm
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post #28 of 34
12/4/05 at 6:54pm
What I do is hook up my ski's to my pet pitbull's collar while I'm taking a break.

LOL

But really, I ALWAYS use my ski-tote with a lock and ALWAYS keep my ski's in view. I know a few people who have lost thier sticks due to some assclown that has no life. If I ever catch someone even attempting to steal my ski's he'll be in store for a beat down.
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post #29 of 34
12/4/05 at 7:03pm
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Originally Posted by skidiver
yet another nod for Ski Key. light, compact, and probably the safest.

here's a ski area locator for the racks:

http://skikey.com/locations/locations.htm
Their locator forgot to include Canada in their locator. BAH!

My experiance with the ski key system is their is usually limited numbers of these racks (Marmot Basin, Lake Louise, Sunshine Village). they are often full of skis not using a lock and therefore you have a lock and no where to use it.

At least with a cable lock it matters not what you are leaning your skis against you can find a way to lock them up.
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post #30 of 34
12/4/05 at 8:15pm
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Originally Posted by Scalce
The R1 only has 3 digits.

The R2 and B2 have 4 digits and the B2 has a tool thing which is useless.

I prefer the 4 digit ones.

Yes locks are not the "end all be all" solution but they are still something.
Well I got an R2 in fact I bought 2 of them. The second time I used it today(first day on snow this season), the damn thing would not unlock. I was ready to leave and couldnt get the thing to release. I used a combo that is fool proof and reset it several times. Finally had to get a security guy to cut it. He used a leatherman tool and even tho it took a bit of doin, it cut and I was on my way. Well now what do ya do? Take it back to REI, first and do I want another or just my $15 back. Also the cable is 36" long but too short to go through the lower binding (which is the only one on my Atomics that will even accept a cable) and reach the top of the ski rack. So gotta use a verticle bar. Oh Well! With all the attention I created the thiefs ran for the hills.:
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