Originally Posted by newfydog
Well , sure the math can be done by anyone. And a snowboard on each foot would give even more float. The point is, how much float do you need? Max is one of those lucky guys who has had about 20 days in the powder THIS YEAR and he found the Metrons pretty darn fun. And when you hit the grooming and warp speed it back to the lift they are way more fun than some banana boat under your foot.
A patrol here said the other day those super fats are for people who can afford heli-skiing but don't ski real well. I sure there are great skiers who disagree, but some of us just don't feel much need to go fatter than midfat.
Riiight....if Max has indeed been skiing pow for 20 days this year, he needs to be looking at other skis besides the ones mentioned in this thread. I ski the M:EX and im88 on the east coast, mostly at Killington. We get enough mixed soft snow that they are both excellent choices as an "everyday" ski. I haven't skied either ski in real powder yet, and will probably never ski the M:EX in powder. The B5/M11 are great if you heavily biased towards slalom carver skis, don't ski fast, and want a versitle freesking ski with a short turn radius. These skis will all make powder skiing easier than on a carving ski, but they are not serious powder weapons, and not the right choice if you ski pow all the time.
As for superfat's being for people who can't ski, you couldn't be more wrong. For example, the powder plus is overall the hardest ski to ski on in my quiver, even harder than those 218cm Volkl DH's. It weighs 18 lb with bindings, has a 40m sidecut, is mounted centered (not asym), and 2cm back from the mount line. At the moment it also has a rilled base structure which makes it quite resistant to any turning (need to put a crosshatch on it). Going from the M:EX to the PP is a huge shock. They are hard to put on edge, hard to pivot, don't carve anything shorter than huge turn, get hooky on the inside ski and have insane swing weight. Get the idea? Put an intermediate or advanced skier on them and they will be unbeliveably lost. What's the payoff? Bottomless floatation in light snow, freight train stablity at speed in tricky snow, floation in thin cover, quick pivoted turns in deep snow in tight trees, bouyancy to surf and smear in deep snow. They are not a do it all powder ski, and are not the best choice for certain kinds of powder...I typically ski the big's on denser powder and bad cover, and will ski the im88 once the cover is good (I'm not going to trash them with heavy bushwhacking in the trees). But if I want to rip on a powder day, the PP's are what you'll find on my feet.