Heh. Your buddies obviously aren't geting their minimum daily requirement of these essential nutrients.
Seriously tho, I have to agree with your friends - I don't consider either the 10ex/Rex or g4 all that great in powder, either. They are stiffer than needed, and for bigger guys, too skinny.
Altho they can be used for lots of purposes, I think that skis like the 10ex and g4 are really for tracked up oatmeal and similar sorts of crud - either truly-big guys going at normal, competent skier speeds, or for normal-big guys going truly fast in such stuff.
For this type of crud, lots of people like skis that are stiffer than they prefer for smooth soft snow, but I think that there is a definite limit as to how stiff you should go even for these conditions. For example, at 210 lbs (ie, LOTS of strudl), my 184 10ex's are a bit softer than I would like for such crud, whereas my 188 G4's are clearly a bit stiffer than optimal for the same conditions.
I have long felt that matching flex to the skier's weight is even more important for soft snow skis than for packed snow skis.
Tom / PM[ October 30, 2003, 08:56 AM: Message edited by: PhysicsMan ]