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post #31 of 89
Originally Posted by skichick70
I'm a big fan of separating skis. Even if you're alone, it's still better to separate them. I'm not saying this is foolproof, but it greatly reduces the odds of your skis getting stolen. It's much easier for them to grab a pair, I can't imagine a thief walking around with one of my skis while hunting for the other.
I'm familiar with someone who had an obviously mismatched pair of adult/kid skis stolen, leaving them out two pair.

I know another guy that had one ski stolen.

Locking the skis is the only reasonably secure option. Keep in mind that I can unlock a Kryptonite cable lock in 15 seconds without the combo, and without possessing any buglary tools. The ski check is a good option if you can trust the operator or at least hold them accountable.

Originally Posted by atomicman
I watched the State Police take a guy away from our area last year in handcuffs. Somehow, I didn't feel sorry for him.
Minor rant: Every year I work in a shop, some LEO calls me or stops by and proceeds to ask me really dumb questions about stolen ski gear. I'm of the opinion that if you leave your property unlocked in a public place, you have no business wasting my tax dollars having Barney Fife "investigate" where they went. Particularly when Barney tells me things like "be on the lookout for blue Rossignols, length unknown, serial unknown, model unknown."

Particularly brilliant are the dumbass cops that every year attempt to determine whether or not criminals are using our "trade in" program to fence stolen merchandise. They just don't seem to get that when scumbags come in to sell us used gear, we tell them the same thing we tell everyone; we don't buy used gear.

I'm very, very annoyed by the one local cop that spends the time every year to fax us a list of stolen equipment from the local hills. The reports almost never have serial numbers, and every single one shares one common aspect; the gear was unlocked. Among things that aren't high on my list "to do" are second guess the owner of every pair of "blue rossignols" I see.

I assume the cops do this because smallish town cops don't have the guts that big city cops have to simply laugh at people when they report stolen goods that were completely insecure and don't have any method of identification.
post #32 of 89
Originally Posted by skichick70
I'm a big fan of separating skis. Even if you're alone, it's still better to separate them. I'm not saying this is foolproof, but it greatly reduces the odds of your skis getting stolen. It's much easier for them to grab a pair, I can't imagine a thief walking around with one of my skis while hunting for the other.
I do the same thing. I never leave my skis together or my poles. One pole and ski together far away from the other pole and ski.
Just to let any would be thieves out there know. If I catch you trying to steal my skis I will not call the cops. But, I will severly beat you, bad enough that you need medical attention immediately. Then I will leave you laying in your own pool of blood and simply go home for the day!
Have a nice day.
post #33 of 89
This is so odd, I have been skiing Alberta for around 15 years and only in the city have I heard of stolen skis. IE local rinky dink hill, parking lot two steps from racks.

I once had a set of poles stolen but they were crap and used the left ones happily. I think it was more mistakenly taken than on purpose.

I use a lock now, but feel like a smuck amongst 1000 pairs of unlocked and everyone looking at me like I'm from Mars.

I am not leaving it to trust but that silly thin cable lock seems so bloody useless.

links to good lock types, that aren't big and bulky?
post #34 of 89
Just the nuisance of the lock will keep people from stealing locked skis, why go through that trouble when the vast majority of skis are not locked up. But i don't lock my stuff up either, never had anything stolen, but then i try not to be inside for very long.
post #35 of 89
Full retail price skis and bindings are in the $1,000.+ range these days. The average skier skis around seven days each season according to ski industry statistics. The ski check usually costs $2.00 a day. At seven days per season that's a modest $14.00 to protect a considerable investment. Skiing 50 days a season would cost the equivalent of only 10% of the cost of new gear.

As many have suggested another alternative is to buy a lock. At least have a friend watch your skis while you are in the lift ticket line or making a quick pit stop. As has been mentioned, simply jotting down the serial number of your skis and keeping in your wallet will give you something to share with the police should all else fail and your skis get stolen.

It's not a happy moment when things get stolen. However, I'm always amazed at how many new skis and boards are just left lying around by their owners while some folks are still checking in their 15 years old straight skis at the ski corral. Who would leave a wallet with a $1,000. in it on a cafeteria table and walk away without being concerned that it might not be there when they return?
post #36 of 89
Originally Posted by ziggyskier
Yeah - ebay. I can not support them specifically for this reason. I have had friends tell me about their bikes and skis showing up. Until the management of ebay does something to stop it from being a quasi front, they will not get my business. How difficult would it be to get a proof of ownership from a seller prior to display? Shame though I could sell so much stuff!!!!!
Getting proof of ownership could actually be difficult. Thinking about some old stuff I have that I might sell on eBay - old skis, old stereo equipment. How exactly do I prove ownership? With an original sales receipt, warranty card with serial number? There's no way I have any of that stuff around anymore. Does this mean I should not be allowed to sell anything on eBay?
post #37 of 89
Originally Posted by kelly001
another solution is to avoid lodges. pack a picnic, find a nice secluded area with a good view, enjoy nature and save some bucks along the way. It beats having to deal with overpriced chili bowls and getting your skis stolen.
Or at least avoid base lodges and eat mid mountain or at the summit. I do this in Tahoe and have never had a problem.
post #38 of 89
A few years ago, I was on a shuttle bus in tahoe, when this well dressed women in her mid 50s grabbed a pair of skis from the shuttle's rack as we were leaving the ski area parking lot.

She just pulled em out, and started walking the other way. Lucky enough, somenoe in the back of the bus saw her, and told the driver. He stopped the bus, jumped out and confronted her, at this point she just handed him the skis and ran off. The thing was, they were like 150 cm rental skis... /boggle

On a less interesting note, I had some crappy skis stolen from me (which I didnt lock) during an all night ski thing. Since then I fork over a few bucks for a the ski check. I'd get a lock - but I cant stand putting anything else in my pockets while skiing.
post #39 of 89
Yeah this has happened to me a three times & also to some friends.

First time was when I was over for the season in the US back 87. Doing a tour east to west.
I was in Killington & left my skis outside a bar & yes they were gone when I came out.
They were almost a verbose set of Dynamics with Geze bindings. Of course I reported them stolen but it didnt help me at the beggining of the season !!
Stange thing was, when I got to Aspen some 6 weeks later I spotted someone with exactly the same skis complete with the top protectors. I didnt have any proof they were mine but I have allways thought about this :

I also had a pair lifted in St Anton in 1990. St Anton is notorious for ski theft although the Police have tried undercover operations in recent years.

The last time was in Telluride two years ago on the first day of the season. Luckily it was a pair of old rentals and when I reported it to the police they made a nice phone call on my behalf to the rental shop who then gave me another pair free of charge.

For the last few years I deface/paint my own skis & paint the bindings to make them un desirable. I just keep the bases in good shape.

I have heard that skis & I guess snowboards are Stolen within 30 secs of you leaving them.

I make a point of looking back over my shoulder whenever my freinds leave there skis to make sure no one is lurking
post #40 of 89
links to good lock types, that aren't big and bulky?[/quote

post #41 of 89
At Sunday River, if you have a season's pass, you can buy a pass for unlimited ski checks all season long for only $25. That's what I do. I check my skis every time I take them off, even if it's only for a 5 minute bathroom break. Then I never have the worry.
post #42 of 89


Originally Posted by Takecontrol618
every single winter there is a multipage thread about stolen gear- you'd think that people would learn by now that if your gear has to leave your sight, you need to either lock it up or separate it.
What a smarmy backroom remark. Do you think every skier reads these boards? Besides, I'm wondering when the thieves who do read the boards will post. I've had the hatchback window of my vehicle smashed and all my equipment stolen so there's really no sure fire method of avoiding being victimized by our society's plentiful thieves. The best advice would be to stay away from expensive, trendy new equipment, park your car in an attended garage and definitely don't believe all you read.
post #43 of 89
I'm sorry your friend had his skis stolen. It really does stink. :

Originally Posted by ATskier
What a smarmy backroom remark.
I don't think that was a smarmy remark. It doesn't matter whether every skier reads these boards. It's in the news often enough now. He's just saying it's no longer the norm to expect your gear to be left alone if you don't lock it.

Probably every skier has had something stolen, or knows someone who had something stolen, at one time or another. My brother had stuff stolen from Mt. Snow more than 20 years ago. Unfortunately, it's becoming more and more common to have gear stolen, simply because of its value. And it's an easy mark, just sitting there unlocked and unwatched. Most of us lock our houses, our cars, our bikes, and so forth. Your ski/snowboard gear is one more thing to lock up. And as someone else said, if you're going to spend about $1000 to buy new gear (or heck, even if you're new to the sport and you buy a package for $500), protect your investment. How many of us can afford to go right out and replace what's been stolen? Not many of us. A lock is cheap, and when your gear is surrounded by a bunch of unlocked gear, the lock is enough to dissuade thieves from taking yours most of the time. They'll grab the easy swipe first. Sure, there's always the thief who will break your car windows to steal what's inside, but does that make you skip locking up your car? Not for most people.

By the way, as someone else said, your gear is usually swiped within 30 seconds of leaving it. That means someone is watching you. So they're also watching you separate your skis. No one notices or stops you when you return and pick up one of your skis in one place and the second in another, so why would anyone pay attention to, or stop, the person who's doing that as they steal your separated skis?

post #44 of 89
Originally Posted by Thatsagirl
They'll grab the easy swipe first. Thatsagirl
True. If you're dealing with a dedicated, intent thief, a ski lock or separating your skis won't deter. They likely have clippers and are watching. The ski corral may be your only defense.

Locking and/or separating skis is most effective against casual thieves; opportunists seeking an easy grab. Those types will be put-off by anything that encumbers their deviant impulse.

At Whistler, the RCMP (that's police to Americans) ski, ride the lifts and apprehend violators of all kinds. Whistler represents a concentration of affluence, which opportunists target. I don't know if the police presence helps reduce ski theft, but I'm glad they're there.
post #45 of 89
On an other note. If you are staying at a hotel/motel/lodge/ect, do NOT leave your skis eitehr in the car, on a roof rack or even in a "box". Night time is prime time for theives.
post #46 of 89
Originally Posted by ATskier
Do you think every skier reads these boards? Besides, I'm wondering when the thieves who do read the boards will post.
Man...I'm glad I read these forums so I know to lock my skis. I'd have never figured that out on my own.:
post #47 of 89
If my ski equipment was stolen it would cost the deductible on my homeowner's policy.

Remember when we used to get our names, etc., engraved on our skis or a plate we'd screw to the skis? These days I put stickers on my skis (Ski Like A Girl, Bridger Bowl and Chicks Rule are my staples).

Why would anyone steal boots???? (Do enjoy the athlete's foot, buddy!)
post #48 of 89
Originally Posted by nolo
Why would anyone steal boots???? (Do enjoy the athlete's foot, buddy!)
I've been trying to figure this one out myself.
Something tells me it's an "inside joke"between Phil and someone else.

Something tells me he has a really good sense of humor. No?:
post #49 of 89
Nolo, I have a Ski Like A Girl sticker on my skis too. We better not put our skis near each other and mistakenly switch them!

post #50 of 89
Originally Posted by Phil Pugliese
On an other note. If you are staying at a hotel/motel/lodge/ect, do NOT leave your skis eitehr in the car, on a roof rack or even in a "box". Night time is prime time for theives.
I've never thought to worry about equipment in my box and rack using the Thule lock cores. Obviously someone can drive off with the entire vehicle, but are the Thule locks themselves an easy target?
post #51 of 89
As Nolo says, stickers are good. I also take a Sharpie and write my name on my skis and cover it with a piece of Ski Saver so it won't rub off. It's just another deterrent. At my ski area, we have a free ski check, and I use it every time I take the skis off, unless it's at line-up and there are a bunch of instructors around to watch them (although they are the first to hide them as a stupid joke).

I remember that thay make ski saver in patterns, as opposed to just clear. It seems that if you cover your skis so that no one knows what they are, they would be less likely to get lifted. Then again, ski thieves aren't the sharpest tools in the shed....
post #52 of 89
A laminated card under the bindings that says "these skis were stolen from Bob Smith 555-1212" can sometimes do the trick. I know of one person who got a call from a shop tech when the stolen skis were brought in for a remount.
post #53 of 89
About the dinky little Kryptonite locks - even if they won't slow down a determined thief with cable cutters, never underestimate stupidity or carelessness. I wonder how many ski "thefts" are simple mixups by folks who just don't focus on the details.

One of my kids once ended up with 140cm Rossi's that were identical to her 120 cm seasonal lease Rossis from the same shop. Turns out whoever took her 120s never noticed the difference and did not report the swap to either the ski area or the shop - despite the 20 cm difference and completely different binding setups.

So there's certainly no harm, and a lot of comfort, to using the cable locks. I lost about 2.5 hours of ski time to getting her back on the hill after that incident. Nuff said.
post #54 of 89
Tief Schnee:

Priceless. I love it!
post #55 of 89
Thread Starter 
No luck on E-bay or craigslist yet. The homeowners insurance has a $1000 deductible. My buddy sucked it up and replaced the skis. Colorado Ski and Golf was very cool about it and gave him a great deal. I think my friend is going to spray paint the skis flat black. I told him to just buy the beat up demo skis from last year like me .... Nobody wants to steal that stuff.
post #56 of 89
Well I guess with all the talk about locking skis up to keep them safe the next question is which locks do you recommend? Are there certain models that are more effective than others?
post #57 of 89

Low Life

These people are scum. They are often well organized and work in groups. The ones who are well organized know how to fence as well. The ones that are organized will hit an area then leave for a while before they come back.

It seems snowboards are more likely to be stolen around here. Snowboarders don't generally steal skis.

This one did - and he got caught by my unstable buddy 6'4". He didn't beat on him. He dragged him around the parking lot flipping and flopping - the pavement was old and uneven. The shi#he@d was mess. I was glad he kept his cool or that kid could have really been hurt. The #u@k!

I don't like ski thieves.
post #58 of 89

separating skis

I can't imagine a thief walking around with one of my skis while hunting for the other.
Keep in mind, often they watch as the skier goes to the rack to choose which ones to nab. They know there is a window of opportunity from when you leave your skis and when you return. They will likely see you split the skis. One benifit is the time it takes to grab both and the risk of being seen grabbing split skis.

These guys work with a plan.
post #59 of 89
If we don't have a lock on us we usually take turns going to the bathroom or getting our food instead of everybody going at once. Sometimes the would be thieves don't realize that the watch person is part of the group and have been caught in the act. Of course they play dumb and act like it's just a mistake.

If we must leave our skis out of sight for some reason we split them, sometimes on the other side of a building (not the next rack).

p.s. - My first post here!
post #60 of 89
I use retractable thin cable locks. I bought mine from CampMor when they were on sale, but the cheapest I've found today was a Kryptonite M1 at REI for $10. Snow Shack has a complete line of Kryptonite locks for skis and Boards (use discount code SKIMAGS for 10% discount). Thin cable locks suck for security, but they do keep the honest people honest. Although cable locks (and Kryptonite's in particular) are easily beaten, someone who is "breaking" one of these locks can immediately be detected as a thief.

My resort catches 1-2 "gangs" per year who come to the resort specifically to rip off skis and boards. They work as a team to "look out" and grab stuff as fast as they can and depart the resort quickly. If your skis go missing or you spot shady people eyeing skis - anyone's skis - please alert resort security ASAP. They often only have a few minutes to catch these people but they are usually quite good at it once they know who to watch. Although there are probably 4-5 other gang thefts that occur each year at our resort, the gangs that get away have a habit of coming back until they get caught or the season is over.

Per skiingman's remarks, please make sure your sales receipts have the skis serial number on it. I love the laminated card idea.

Now if we could only get resorts to put up security cameras to record ski racks we might get a little better at deterring thieves.
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