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New Krypton?

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There's a picture of the Dalbello Krypton Rampage on the skipress.com website Dalbello ad at the top of the opening page. The boot is black and white. I can't find anything regarding the Rampage on the Dalbell website. Anybody know anything about this model?
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Missed from before , thanks.
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I've also heard a rumor from a ski shop owner that Dalbello was releasing a narrower version of the boot. I don't know if it was a plug boot or a LVL.
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Originally Posted by Highway Star
I've also heard a rumor from a ski shop owner that Dalbello was releasing a narrower version of the boot. I don't know if it was a plug boot or a LVL.
Let me check into that.
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I was looking at the overall volume of the Krypton compared to other boots in its class and it is at the higher end of the scale for a performance boot. Dalbello boots typically have been high volume boots. I'm going to guess that they purposely made the boot a little higher volume allowing more people to be able to fit into it versus the Flexon.

I see myself probably getting a pair if the shop will put it on barter and allow me to get it through my wife's barter account. I briefly tried a 27 on last year and felt like it had a lot of wiggle room in the toe box that surprised me. I want to try on a 26 and compare. I wear a 10-10.5 shoe.

Years ago I had the Flexons. I'll never forget how tight they were in the store and wearing them at home . I would take them off after a half hour and my feet would be beat red. Took them out to Copper to ski for the first time and they grew two sizes after skiing them ,I couldn't believe it. I ended up getting sole shims to tighten the fit up. My shop said they received the new liner. I saw on ebay where you an get the Cross for $359 from a shop in L.I. I wonder how much less of a boot it is comapred to the Pro.

I should leave well enough alone . Skied for the first time this weekend and my boots are fine. Its always the allure that there's something alot better out there waiting to be discovered.
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Originally Posted by roundturns
I was looking at the overall volume of the Krypton compared to other boots in its class and it is at the higher end of the scale for a performance boot. Dalbello boots typically have been high volume boots. I'm going to guess that they purposely made the boot a little higher volume allowing more people to be able to fit into it versus the Flexon.
It's my personal quest to end the continual comments that the Krypton is a wider last than the Flexon . IT ISN'T! Please stop perpetuating this information unless you have the facts.

Here are the facts - the Krypton 26 shell is 5mm longer than the Flexon 26 shell (306mm vs. 301mm). The bootboard widths at their widest point (forefoot) are 81mm for the Krypton and 86mm for the Flexon. The shell widths measured at their widest point (on the outside) are 107mm for the Krypton and 110mm for the Flexon. All measurements were taken using metric calipers.

I have had Flexons for almost 25 years and recently purchased Kryptons in the same shell size. Using the same Thermoflex liner moved between the two shells there is no doubt that the Krypton is narrower through the forefoot. On the Krypton Dalbello did relax the instep a bit and the heel pocket was feeling wider until I ground the bootboards to lower my foot position in the shell. So I can't agree with any comments that the Krypton is a wider boot. It certainly isn't in the plug or semi-plug realm since the last is more than 100mm wide, but the Krypton does not follow the same pattern as anything else in Dalbello's line and should not be characterized as a higher volume boot.
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Dalbello Rampage

Look at these guys!!! Right on top of things!!!

MAN...YOU'RE (ALL) GOOD!!!
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You are way more informed than I am regarding the Krypton and its comparison to the Flexon. I just was surprised when I saw the Volume Stat Skiing Magazine assigned to the Krypton and compared that number to other boots in the category.

My ignorance is not knowing what measurements are used to assign the volume number which is 1-10 scale. They gave the Krypton a 6.3 overall volume . Most of the boots in the same category were below that in the mid 4's. I would guess overall volume on a weighted basis would represent width, but Skiing doesn't define how they come up with the numerical values.

I have a narrow foot so I am glad to learn the Krypton should fit me well.
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Originally Posted by roundturns
You are way more informed than I am regarding the Krypton and its comparison to the Flexon. I just was surprised when I saw the Volume Stat Skiing Magazine assigned to the Krypton and compared that number to other boots in the category.

My ignorance is not knowing what measurements are used to assign the volume number which is 1-10 scale. They gave the Krypton a 6.3 overall volume . Most of the boots in the same category were below that in the mid 4's. I would guess overall volume on a weighted basis would represent width, but Skiing doesn't define how they come up with the numerical values.

I have a narrow foot so I am glad to learn the Krypton should fit me well.
I get Ski and Skiing mags also, but I have to admit I didn't pay much attention to those "relative" scores they give the boots on fit since they don't really quantify how they arrived at those numbers. Are they purely subjective or are they taking measurements? If they're taking measurements then why don't they publish them.

Sorry to jump on you about this. I just want everyone to be as informed as possible when making their purchasing decisions.
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The rampage IS the Krypton Pro with a cheaper liner...

I tried the Rampage on a few weeks ago (the rep didn't have the Pro with him) - it seemed VERY low volume but didn't fit my feet quite like my Grand Prixs - it was definitely the 2nd best fitting boot I've ever tried on.
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Originally Posted by Noodler
I get Ski and Skiing mags also, but I have to admit I didn't pay much attention to those "relative" scores they give the boots on fit since they don't really quantify how they arrived at those numbers. Are they purely subjective or are they taking measurements? If they're taking measurements then why don't they publish them.

Sorry to jump on you about this. I just want everyone to be as informed as possible when making their purchasing decisions.
I don't get it...How do you rate boots??????The fit is sooooo subjective!
post #14 of 17
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I believe the numbers they assign for different fit components is by comparison to other boots in the category. If actual measurements of the dimensions are not being taken than it really becomes a subjective comparison for the testers to compare the heel pocket of Boot A to the heel pocket of Boot B.

Certainly the accuracy if this is the method can be questioned, but I still believe it provides some insight into the general fit characteristics of the boot. Far from perfect, but a general guideline of what to expect.
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Originally Posted by Highway Star
I've also heard a rumor from a ski shop owner that Dalbello was releasing a narrower version of the boot. I don't know if it was a plug boot or a LVL.
No low volume shell in the works. They are working on some liners, but no shell variations.
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What also surprised me about the Krypton vs. the Flexon is how much more "life" the Krypton had in it vs. the Flexon. FOr those of you that have both, put a Krypton on one foot and a Flexon on the other.
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Originally Posted by Phil Pugliese
What also surprised me about the Krypton vs. the Flexon is how much more "life" the Krypton had in it vs. the Flexon. FOr those of you that have both, put a Krypton on one foot and a Flexon on the other.
Are you suggesting skiing on two different boots? Interesting...
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