I'm 6'2" 175 and felt that way about the 168s. I also skied 6 stars in 175 and they felt more stable for my weight.
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1/4/06 at 6:51pm
Originally Posted by Cirquerider
Wow Hrstrat57, this thread is already at over 60 responses and 3400 views. The V-Mantra thread is over 100 / 10,000 and there are like three of them out there. I agree with you; Volkl owes us.
Have you changed you skiing style any with these skis?
Originally Posted by boredtoo
My wife and I will be in Beaver Creek/Vail from Jan. 21 through 28. Other than a demo, this will be my first extended use of my 168 cm Allstars. I am 6' tall and weight approximately 170 lbs and would rate myself as a 6 or 7 on the skiing meter (which means I'm probably a 5). I have abused a pair of 03/04 175 cm 6*'s for the last two seasons. While I love these skis, they can be a bit unforgiving. I promise to give a full report when I return.
Originally Posted by Vit
Does anyone have a take on lighter guys skiing Volkl Allstars? I am 5'8, 135 lb. Ski aggressively and on all types of terrain. My present skis are Volkl RC P50 and I like them. Live in NE, but split my ski days (35-40 a season) about evenly between NE, NW and Europe. Have seen good reviews of Volkl Allstars (including at this forum) but wonder if they may be too much for my weight. I plan to try them soon, but wonder if anyone close to my build have skied them or would have an informed opinion. Thanks for feedback.
Originally Posted by Vit
Thanks hrstart57 for your response. My P50s are 168cm and I consider starting with the same length on my Allstars demo; if they don't feel quite right, I'll try 161cm . I have not thought of going as short as 154. I have never skied anything shorter than 165cm, and that's on powder skies with AT setup. As for your suggestion with regard to other skies, I actually did have 5-star in mind as well. Thanks again for your tips and starting this useful thread.
Originally Posted by goltim
New here, congratulations for the great forum.
I'm an 18yr guy 6'1, 165 pounds. Looking to upgrade my Volkl AX2 (170cm). I’ve skied about 30 weeks, 14 seasons. I like to ski fairly aggressively, medium radius turns, mostly on-piste blacks (80/20) in Europe. I’m heading to Zermatt next week, and need to put together a demo list. Do you think the Allstar would suit me? What size would you recommend (168??). Alternative suggestions?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Originally Posted by flexbert
Hi all. I am seriously looking at new skis and the Allstar is at/near the top of my list and in my google searching, I came across this thread. There are some great reviews/comments here so I thought I'd join the forum and ask a question or two.
About me - I'll be 41 in a few days, 6'4", ~235lbs (usually hover around 220, but I cannot seem to motivate myself to get running again and the pounds are creeping back on: ). I started skiing at 11, was a slalom/GS racer through my teens, instructed during my last year of high school, cut back on the number of skiing days starting with university and then with marriage, job, moving, family, etc, really scaled back on skiing (~2-3 times a year). 2 years ago we got the kids started in skiing and so I started back. Currently skiing on Salomon S9000 S1's (GS race ski) in a 210 length. It is time for new skis and I cannot justify more than a one ski quiver. I would say that I am between an advanced and expert skier and I ski predominantly in the East (Nova Scotia, Canada). I enjoy all on-piste skiing (short, medium and long radius; slow, medium and fast speeds; bumps - see caveat below) and rarely (almost never) go off piste. I will be skiing a lot with my family, so that means beginner and intermediate runs and occasionally tackling the black diamonds (I enjoy spending the skiing time with my family and they are not ready for anything over an intermediate run (yet?, ever?), so I don't go off to the black diamonds too much, but when I do, I want something that will perform). I get intimidated (a bit?) by very steep runs and by steep mogul runs.
Between last year and this year I have demo'd:
04/05 Salomon Scream Pilot 8 - length ?, and I did not like it at all
04/05 Salomon Crossmax 10 - 170cm and I really enjoyed it
05/06 Salomon Equipe SC - 165cm was all they had and I did not like it - I found it unresponsive and too easy to ski (maybe another few years and I'll be looking more closely at skis like that, but not yet ) - I like to work the ski
05/06 Head iSupershape World Cup - 160cm, great grip on ice, good power coming out of the turn, stable at reasonable (eyes only watering a bit) speed, I liked them but I think I would prefer something more versatile - this ski seems a bit too driven to short radius turns for me
This weekend I am going to demo the 05/06 Head iXRC 1400 Chip in a 170cm. I have been trying to track down a Volkl Allsport to demo here in NS with no luck (relatively low population and not a ski destination, so apparently Volkl does not provide demos to the retailers here - to paraphrase one retailer "those who know will buy them anyways"). So I am limited in what I can demo locally and we have no plans for a ski trip this year (Disney World is the destination of choice later this year). The shop that has the iXRC 1400 also has a Salomon Crossmax V12 to demo and that is apparently an awesome ski - it is not available this weekend but I will try for next weekend. I'll post some reviews on both these skis once I get out on them.
Given what I have been/will be able to demo, can anyone compare any of those skis to the Allstars? What about length for the Allstars? I was leaning towards a 175cm, but after reading some of the comments on this thread, the 168cm sounds pretty appealing now. Does that decision come down to how I want to ski? I love long cruising turns and getting the speed up, but as I said above, I also enjoy all types of on-piste skiing.
Originally Posted by JohnnyD
hrstrat57, I too enjoyed your comments / feedback.
I'm looking for any/all personal advice on this ski (even though I think similar has been posted on different threads here)...
I've been very interested in the allstar. After doing lots of web research etc, had become convinced that this was likely the perfect ski for me. Profile stuff: 6'1" 175lbs 41yrs old. Fairly aggressive skier (skied a lot as a kid, though never raced). Prefer groomed higher speed carving to bumps (not as young as I used to be...). Live in northeast, so never on powder.
Been skiing on a pair of 174 K2 AxisXRs for about 3 yrs. Enjoyed them but if anything they felt a bit dead/damp. Also wished the turn radius (16) was just slightly tighter. Worst is, for some reason last 3-4 times out felt like I can't trust em anymore at speed. Losing a bit of edge even though they were tuned & sharp enough. Don't know if it's me or the skis...? Wasn't able to demo either 5 or old 6-star last year, but if any indication, the ski I "trusted" the most while demoing was the Dynamic GeantVR27 (supposedly a "race" ski).
So then, I figured the 168 allstar would be the perfect ski for me. 14.4 radius; meant to lean into with confidence... However, at a local store two different reps were trying to push me into the 5star. So the nagging questions is: what's the risk the allstar is "too much ski?" Or conversely, that the 5 isn't enough? My gut still says allstar, but now I'm wondering. At least enough to likely wait until I get a chance to demo later in the year.
Apologize if this is too redundant with other/previous posts, but again looking for any helpful feedback or thoughts. Thanks...
Originally Posted by hrstrat57
I would be very interested in trying a 161....would shorten radius from 14.4 to 13 if I recall. I doubt any stability would be lost...just make the ski a little "spunkier" maybe a little harder to balance on with reduced length/sweet spot?
I have finally gotten my old 208's out of my brain and can appreciate the sizing of these little sno shoe sized ski's. Problem is I can't find a pair to try
Sold out everywhere in 161....what's that tell me?
Oboe...you going with the 06 or waiting for the 07??....I can't get a clear read out regarding any changes.
www.volkl.com remains silent and all I hear are rumours....
Originally Posted by oboe
This is a busy week, but I'll pick them up, mounted and calibrated (DIN) Wednesday.
You're right - availability is short. Wonder how come they're all snapped up??: Go figure.