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goggle lenses - rose or clear?

post #1 of 19
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as i stated in my other thread i'm currently shopping for a new set of goggles, right now i have scott storm otg goggles with a standard rose tint. they work well except on cloudy/stormy/foggy days, or towards the end of the day when much of the mountain gets covered in shadow and contrast and definition decreases considerably and i can't see the bumps and ruts well or at all... ive never had problems on sunny days so im mostly concerned with those very dark stormy days (im in whistler).. i think having a darker tint on those days is worse than having a lighter tint on sunny days? the goggles im looking at are the smith knowledge turbo otg, here are the lenses:

http://www.smithsport.com/products/r...edgeturbo.html

1. if i only got one lens, which should i get? what lens will give me the best results on a low light day but not be totally useless or fry my eyes on a sunny day?

2. if i got two lenses, which two should i get? and how hard is it to switch out lenses?

basically what i want to know is, whats the absolute best for stormy lowlight days, yellow or clear? and if i only got one lens, can yellow be used as an all around lens, or is it not enough for sunny days? thanks!
post #2 of 19
It must depend on the user... I prefer a rose coloured tint in the lens as I find it works best for me in low, flat conditions compared to other lens types. On clear days I use my Smith sunglasses which have an interchange lens system (not cheap but very light) although I normally use the very dark tint lens. In your case (reading between the lines that you use OTG models and therefore wear glasses), maybe you might want to get a prescription lens pair of sunglasses to supplement your goggles for those sunny days.

BTW. Mine goggles are also Smith branded.
post #3 of 19
Gold Light if you only get one. Or as your primary lens with two.

Rose Copper as the second.

I look for lenses that can increase contrast off snow for best use in flat and very bright conditions.
post #4 of 19
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ssh
Gold Light if you only get one. Or as your primary lens with two.

Rose Copper as the second.

I look for lenses that can increase contrast off snow for best use in flat and very bright conditions.
no offense but that doesn't make much sense to me, why would i want to own two closely matched all around lenses? the point of having two lenses would be to cover both (sunlight/lowlight) as well as possible.. i know rose works for me as an all around lense, what i want to know is if yellow can also be a good all around lense too (with the benefit of better lowlight performance), and if not, what would be better, yellow or clear for those stormy lowlight days..

thanks
post #5 of 19

Vote for the rc36

I've had the Smith Gold Lite in prior goggles and the Rose Copper (RC36) in my current goggles. Even though the web site says Gold Lite transmits 55% of the light and the RC36 something less (?30%) I like the Rose Copper lenses better in low light, poor definition situations. Seems to me that it somehow lightens a little bit in low light but is definitely usable all the time. As far a 'really' low light goggle, I think the yellow is superior to the clear, but that will seem too bright for normal light skiing. I tried it once with a pair of yellow goggles my son bought (not Smith, in this case) and it almost gave me a head-ache trying to use them in the light.

Changing lenses in the Smith's is extremely easy. There is a notch on the frame bottom (above the nose) and several other notches around the lenses. The lense frame just pushes into these notches for retention. Easily changed in 5 minutes.
post #6 of 19
If you're not skiing under the lights, just get one.
post #7 of 19
sensor mirror for flat light would be my choice.

I'm leaving the other selection up to you. I'll just say that I don't like goggle lenses that block too much visual light. When I ski I'm not looking at the sky so I don't need a lense that blocks a lot of visual light. Even on bright days, there are times that you'll be in the shadows ...like the trees. If it's really bright, I'll pack a pair of sunglasses for the lift and the sun deck.
post #8 of 19
It also depends on where you're skiing, too. In Colorado, I would recommend more light blocking than one might prefer in the east.
post #9 of 19
I had a pair of Scotts two years ago with very light purple lenses, a lavender type shade. They were the absolute best flat light goggles I'd ever used and have yet to find a similar lens by any other companies.


Its a shame I cant make a pair of goggles last more than a season.
post #10 of 19
Quote:
Originally Posted by Seven
sensor mirror for flat light would be my choice.

I'm leaving the other selection up to you. I'll just say that I don't like goggle lenses that block too much visual light. When I ski I'm not looking at the sky so I don't need a lense that blocks a lot of visual light. Even on bright days, there are times that you'll be in the shadows ...like the trees. If it's really bright, I'll pack a pair of sunglasses for the lift and the sun deck.
I'm interested in the Smith Sensor Mirror based on the description on the Smith website. Can you or anyone comment on how it compares to the yellow lens and the Rose Copper/RC36 lens in snowy and/or foggy conditions?
post #11 of 19
Quote:
Originally Posted by stebed
as i stated in my other thread i'm currently shopping for a new set of goggles, right now i have scott storm otg goggles with a standard rose tint. they work well except on cloudy/stormy/foggy days, or towards the end of the day when much of the mountain gets covered in shadow and contrast and definition decreases considerably and i can't see the bumps and ruts well or at all... ive never had problems on sunny days so im mostly concerned with those very dark stormy days (im in whistler).. i think having a darker tint on those days is worse than having a lighter tint on sunny days? the goggles im looking at are the smith knowledge turbo otg, here are the lenses:

http://www.smithsport.com/products/r...edgeturbo.html

1. if i only got one lens, which should i get? what lens will give me the best results on a low light day but not be totally useless or fry my eyes on a sunny day?

2. if i got two lenses, which two should i get? and how hard is it to switch out lenses?

basically what i want to know is, whats the absolute best for stormy lowlight days, yellow or clear? and if i only got one lens, can yellow be used as an all around lens, or is it not enough for sunny days? thanks!
Since you have a pair which works well in sunny conditions, why don't you get a pair that perform well in flat light. I don't know about Scott, but Oakley's hi-intensity yellow lens works very well in flat light. From my experience the rose or persimmon lenses don't are not good for flat light. I don't think it is possible to get one lens that works well in both light conditions.
post #12 of 19
I'd go with yellow as a second lense for flat light. Clear is really only preferable for night skiing. I only use the Smith rose/copper lenses, and they are good for bright light until it get's heavily overcast, then they're a little dark, but I've toyed with getting some yellow lenses for those stormy days.
post #13 of 19
Rose colored!! I skied yesterday using my new rose colored goggles for the first time. It was different at first ,but I'll tell you they worked perfectly I was shocked at how well they worked in low light. I was thrilled, because before I skied with them I was a little nervous. Rose for me from now on!
post #14 of 19
If you can only have one-RC36, no question.
post #15 of 19
Tint is such a personal choice because we all have different eyes. I search for a shop that is on the hill so I can look through all the lenses I am considering. Make sure you do not look through the shop window though because it might be tinted and will change your results. I might get a better deal elsewhere but the shop that goes through the extra effort to help me make a more informed decision earn my business every time.
post #16 of 19
Quite a disparity in opinion here so here's mine. I find yellow/amber to be the best for all conditions. I've had rose and they only worked for ME in sunny conditions. This one is kind of like ski's I guess in that you may have to try several until deciding on what's best for you.
post #17 of 19
What Smith says:
RC36- Rose Copper:
A universal lens tint that provides the best vision for the widest variety of conditions. Enhances depth perception, increases contrast and maximizes visual acuity. 36% visual light transmission.
post #18 of 19
Well, one thing is clear, no one has recommended CLEAR for stormy, low light days.
post #19 of 19
From that selection I would pick yellow for flat light.

I did like the original Scott tint that was sort of yellow-orange for flat light.
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