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Base and Side Angles for Fischer RX8

post #1 of 14
Thread Starter 
Anbody know what the factory specs are for the base and side angles of 2005 Fischer RX8?

Thanks,
Mark
post #2 of 14
I have 2004 model and emailed fischer. I got a reply saying 1 degree base and 3 degree side, which seems to be a very common confguration.

In general I've been taught between .5 and 1 is best for the base, starting a little less gives you more tune-ups before the base bevel exceeds 1 degree at which point the ski becomes harder to ski.
post #3 of 14
Wierd V bulletin error.
post #4 of 14
Once the base bevel has been set, I leave it alone and just tune the side edge. The most I will do with the base edges is polish them with a fine diamond stone to remove any file marks.
post #5 of 14
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Originally Posted by Lostboy
Once the base bevel has been set, I leave it alone and just tune the side edge. The most I will do with the base edges is polish them with a fine diamond stone to remove any file marks.
Agreed as to only using diamonds on the base edge. However sometimes I'll do a very gentle filing if necessary, and if I'm confident that my bevel is still 1 degree or under. VERY gentle.

But what about coarse diamonds, do you feel they cut too much metal off?
post #6 of 14
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Originally Posted by SkiMangoJazz
Agreed as to only using diamonds on the base edge. However sometimes I'll do a very gentle filing if necessary, and if I'm confident that my bevel is still 1 degree or under. VERY gentle.

But what about coarse diamonds, do you feel they cut too much metal off?
I only use a coarse stone to remove edge dings. On the side edges I generally only use medium and fine stones once the edges have been set. Once in a great while I will use a Swix second cut file on the side edges if I've been using a particular pair of skis a lot. I'm sort of a minimalist in this regard. There are others here more knowledgable than me on the subject of tuning though and I don't have to ski on New England "packed powder".
post #7 of 14
Rumor has it that Fischer says 1 and 1, but I skied mine at 1 and 3, which I think it optimal for most skis in most conditions. At his presentation at the ESA last year, VSP showed us the reasons for the deeper side bevel, and they have to do with the "shelf" that the edge makes on the snow, and the way that an increased bevel allows for a better edge. With some edges, the increased angle can mean worse damage at times, but in my experience, the RX8s do not have this issue.
post #8 of 14
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Originally Posted by ssh
Rumor has it that Fischer says 1 and 1, but I skied mine at 1 and 3, which I think it optimal for most skis in most conditions. At his presentation at the ESA last year, VSP showed us the reasons for the deeper side bevel, and they have to do with the "shelf" that the edge makes on the snow, and the way that an increased bevel allows for a better edge. With some edges, the increased angle can mean worse damage at times, but in my experience, the RX8s do not have this issue.
Fischer has been 1 degree base and 3 degrees side for most models for years. They have never been 1 and 1 that I can recall. On the other hand, Elan and Head specs call for 1 degree base and 1 degree side. Atomic follows the Fischer specs. Most other brands call for 1 and 2 on most of their models.

Some Fischer race models have spec'd .5 base and 3 side or .7 base and 3 degrees side. At all events bevels are really a matter of individual preference. Using the manufacturer's recommended bevel setting is a good starting point.
post #9 of 14
Lostboy, makes sense to me. I had just been asked this past week by a Bear who said that he had heard Fischer RX8s were 1 and 1. I hadn't heard that, which is why I called it a rumor. Thanks for the correction!
post #10 of 14
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Originally Posted by ssh
Rumor has it that Fischer says 1 and 1, but I skied mine at 1 and 3,
Following is my question and the answer from Fischer via email (I used the email contact link on their website, and the answer came from the manufacturer, not a US rep.

Me: What is the factory base and side edge bevel amounts on my
new RX8\'s (03/04 model)

Fischer: The base is 1 degree and the side is 3 degrees. ENJOY!
post #11 of 14
Yes, it is 3/1.
post #12 of 14
Thread Starter 

Thanks for the advice and info

Thanks.
post #13 of 14
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Originally Posted by ssh
With some edges, the increased angle can mean worse damage at times, but in my experience, the RX8s do not have this issue.
if you look at the edges of a new rx8 you can sometimes see the "tempered steel" they have another name. it is a "case hardening" process. the edges will be black.
post #14 of 14
Fischer has used the "Plasma" edge process on certain models where they super heat the edges to make them more ding resistant. The down side is that it also makes them harder to file.

Fischer has also used a .7 base 2.75 side edge on their Sceneo series that preceded the RX series and a few other models. The problem was that the average ski shop tech could not produce those edge angles whether because they lacked the proper guides, the expertise, or where the angles were set by a machine, the desire to reset it to do a pair of Fischers. Fscher's GS race skis come with a .5 base, I think.

At all events, 1 degree base and 3 degrees side has been the most widely used spec bevels by Fischer for many years. It's easy to set and maintain and works very well for most. As with all skis, you can adjust the edge bevels to suit your tastes. I know slalom racers that are skiing with a 5 degree side bevel. I'm just glad I don't have to maintain their skis.

I'm off to go skiing.
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