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skis to replace my old dynastar speed 63's?

post #1 of 17
Thread Starter 
First off, I know practically nothing about skiing compared to any of you guys on here... Id say Im a pretty good skier but I dont know any terms or how to describe my style or anything. Im looking to buy a replacement set of skis for my Dynastar Speed carve 63's... Anyone familiar with these skis? I loved them at first, but started looking for replacements last year. They do exactly what I bought them for, carving at really high speeds on open spaces with pretty even snow. However, Im trying to get on some more challening terrain now with tighter slopes (maybe some trees involved every now and then, something I couldnt do with these skis) and less even snow. I cant take big, speedy carving types of turns on a narrow black diamond out west or anything like that. Im looking for something softer and lighter, so I can start making tighter turns at slower speeds... Something more maneuverable and versatile, but still capable of some cruising too. All Ive demoed so far is the volkl 5 star, and it was great for most everything I wanted except that it was really twitchy at speed. Now I know this is a long list of things to want from one ski, and maybe the volkl 5* is as close as Ill get, but is there anything out there thats kind of a medium between these two skis? Or do you have any other recomendations that I should look into? So far, Ive heard about the volkl 6*'s, allstars, the metron line of skiis, and rx8's. Heres what I have now;


post #2 of 17
I've got a pair of 165cm Dynastar Omeglas Speed 63's. It's a deep-sidecut (11 meters) slalom "race" ski that I think is extremely versatile. It's capable of very, very good short-radius turns on hard snow but is still very stable when you're going fast.

It's also - at least for me - a very forgiving ski that lets you ski most any kind of turn. I even like it for light crud and powder (less than 12" or so). It's an absolute dream in trees and bumps.

If you like the way those Dynastars ski, you might want to look into the current, short-turn models.
post #3 of 17
Thread Starter 
I loved my dynastars and would definitely consider another pair if they made what I was looking for... Nobody had ever mentioned them at all so I figured they didnt have anything worthwhile released now. I couldnt find your skis anywhere, could you link my to some pictures or a description? Are these skis light??
post #4 of 17
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Originally Posted by mhk87
I loved my dynastars and would definitely consider another pair if they made what I was looking for... Nobody had ever mentioned them at all so I figured they didnt have anything worthwhile released now. I couldnt find your skis anywhere, could you link my to some pictures or a description? Are these skis light??
Hi, mhk87:

Mine are last year's model, the Dynastar Omeglass Speed 63. It was the 2004/2005 model. The dimensions are 116-63-103 and I misled you on the turn radius for the 165cm length, it's actually 13m, not 11. Here's a link to a review of my ski:

http://www.ski-review.com/content/view/42/30/

As with many things in life, someone (Dynastar) has decided that last year's model needed "improving", so that model is no longer made. This year's version is the Speed Omeglass Comp and the dimensions are slightly different; 116-64-100 and the turn radius for the 165cm is 14m. Here's a link to the Dynastar site:

http://www.dynastar.com/product.php?id_seg=&id_product=2166&id_dyn_categor y=2&id_dyn_segment=1&acturub=1&id_dyn_target=

I've not skied the new one so I really can't comment on it. I know that the model I have is just a dream to ski. I live in a place that's renowned for snowfall and fat skis, but I love to ski these Dynastars all over the Jackson Hole mountain as long as there's less than about 10-12" of new snow.

As far as weight is concerned, they are probably about average. They come with a factory riser plate that is drilled for Look/Rossignol bindings so you can't put some other type of binding on them (no problem for me).

Also, if you read the reviews on that site above, you might come away with the impression that the ski is some burly, barely-able-to-bend-it race ski that will punish you if you don't ski it hard and fast. All I can say is that I don't find it to be that way at all. I feel like I can be super lazy on it if I want to and it won't beat me up, but if I want to rail on it this ski will take everything my set of skills can give it. (I'm 6'1", 195#, btw.)

I just mentioned them because I've found that people who like one Dynastar model will often like other models. Nearly every ski brand has a distinctive "feel". If you like your current 63's and are looking for something that will make shorter turns but still hang in there at faster speeds, this one might be worth a look. I bought mine new on Ebay a year ago for about $350.00.

Good luck.
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post #6 of 17
The Speed 63 was a very good ski in it's time and was the first of the autodrive skis. It was a Ski Magazine ski of the year. The plate gave the ski a very damp feel.

For a current ski with a similar feel, you might consider the Dynastar Contact 11. This is a ski with a wider waist (71mm) so it will perform better in shallow powder and crud. It will still have great edge grip and will retain the damp feel of the speed 63's. If your old 63's are 178, then I'd suggest the Contact 11 in a 172.

SJ
post #7 of 17
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Originally Posted by SierraJim
The Speed 63 was a very good ski in it's time and was the first of the autodrive skis. It was a Ski Magazine ski of the year. The plate gave the ski a very damp feel.

For a current ski with a similar feel, you might consider the Dynastar Contact 11. This is a ski with a wider waist (71mm) so it will perform better in shallow powder and crud. It will still have great edge grip and will retain the damp feel of the speed 63's. If your old 63's are 178, then I'd suggest the Contact 11 in a 172.

SJ
Let me take that l ine of thought one step further...

The Contact Limited. It's a truly amazing ski, feels great, and is a very good ski that can do many things very well all over the mountain.

PLUS, it features the new Autodrive 2 plate - which won't be seen on any other models until the 2006/2007 season.

La creme de la creme. Worth every penny.
post #8 of 17
Re: Contact LTD.

So I hear, but we don't see those babies down here in Baja Canuckistan....

SJ
post #9 of 17
Keep the Pivots for sure, I've got a feeling those are going to be fetching top dollar next year if the new Look/Rossi design doesn't turn out to be everything expected.
post #10 of 17
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Originally Posted by Takecontrol618
Keep the Pivots for sure, I've got a feeling those are going to be fetching top dollar next year if the new Look/Rossi design doesn't turn out to be everything expected.
Nahh, the market's not gonna spike on those at all. Lots of dealers bought up the remaining stock on 'em, at a discount since they're no longer in production...and Dynastar won't look to kindly on dealers selling them above MSRP when they're old stock.

And trust me, the new design is all that AND a bucket of chicken. Look's been a driving force in bindings for decades - they don't make a move this significant in the market without it being for very good reason.
post #11 of 17
Thread Starter 
Hey again, my computer was down for a few days so sorry for the delay in responses. Thanks for the info on the Dynastars, jim... If I ever see some to demo Ill definitely give them a try. The pair that you sent an ebay link to is just the newer version of your exact ski, right? I went to the review page you sent and looked at some of the dynastars, and the speed 67 also looked pretty nice, though now I think it might be too much of an all mountain cruiser type ski. About the contact 11 and limited, I couldnt find much info on them at all, do you know of any reviews or anything like that? One last thing, I was looking around on volkl's site and saw their unlimited line of skis, does anyone know much about this line? It sounds like they might be what im looking for.
post #12 of 17
mhk:

The Contact 11 was reviewed by SKI in the AME category. They reported the waist width at 67mm. I tested the ski last spring when buying that category. Checking my notes, I recorded the width at 71mm. I have Dynastar literature that says both, but I think that 67 is correct.

FWIW I only carry four models (out of 8 brands) in the true expert carve category. (not counting fat carvers) I did not buy the Contact 11 because it felt almost like it was too much ski for most retail buyers. With the full length sidewall and the metal AD plate it felt much like a wide race stock GS ski. In retrospect, this could have been due to several factors most notably a too long sample (178) when compared to the 170-175's from other makers. It is also likely that the ski was too flat hence the feel of somewhat reluctant turn initiation on firm grippy snow. This is not to say that the C-11 is not a good ski relative to the other models that I did decide to carry. It might in fact be a better ski than some, just not as user friendly in the sample that I tried.

SJ
post #13 of 17
bought my D'star speed sx 63's when they were ski of the yr in that category . Rode rthem hard for 3 yrs about 100days and then got my atomic SX 10's but still use the D'stars as my rock skis . thay still are a fine days ride
post #14 of 17
Hi MHK,

If a good value is important, consider last years Dynastar Skicross 9. It has a 110-69-98mm sidecut and offer very versatile performance. You should be able to grab these for $200 or so and reuse your great Look bindings!

http://cgi.ebay.com/Skis-Dynastar-SKICROSS-9-170-ski-cross-carving-2005-NEW_W0QQitemZ8729454536QQcategoryZ26349QQssPageNam eZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Cheers,

Barrettscvc
post #15 of 17
I loved my Speed 63's. I also have a pair of Omeglass slalom skis and they are great. I replaced my Speed 63's with a pair of SkiCross 10's that were an end of season clear out. I just couldn't justify (to my wife) having 3 pairs of skis.
post #16 of 17
What about the Elan S-12s?

They are supposed to have a damp feel similar to the 63's yet be very versatile.
post #17 of 17
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the responses everybody... Ive spent some more time looking around at whats out there and it seems I just need to go skiing during a demo day and ski everything I can get ahold of. After reading up on all these skis im honestly not 100% on what I want and will probably just feel it out in person when Im demoing. About the damp feel on the 63's, I never really payed attention to that aspect of skis honestly, but now that I think about it I think the less damp the better. The dynastars I had had both an autodrive plate and lifters for the bindings, which made them really damp. However when I demoed the volkl 5 stars, it seemed you could feel a lot more through the ski and I liked that a lot more...
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